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  1. #31
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    Just to add to all the great suggestions here...when you do try to stand, make sure you're not in too EASY a gear. If you are, your legs will just spin wildly and out of control. You need to be in a tough enough gear that you get some resistance in the pedals. Most people who do climb standing (part of the way), actually upshift 1-2 gears before standing to avoid this spinning out of control feeling. I learned to stand while coasting by shifting to a "harder" gear. Instant difference!

    My favorite time to stand is to get a good burst of speed when leaving a stop sign or stoplight. It seems natural to stand then to get going.

    Good luck!

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  2. #32
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    WOW! What an INCREDIBLE amount of EXCELLENT advice! Thank you all SO MUCH!!!

    Not only do I feel better about my own butt-glued-to-seat and sketchy stopping techniques, but I also have some new and great ideas to try out! You guys are all just awesome!!!

    It's interesting, when I read all the posts about bike fit, it sounds like folks are thinking my bike is too large or the reach is too long, etc. I actually think it may be just the opposite. I think the bike is a bit too small! I feel like the top tube might be too short, thereby not giving me quite enough room for my body if I do try to stand up. If I stand up while I'm coasting (by the way, I've only been doing that to try and get the feeling of standing...plus it does let you stretch a little bit), I almost feel like I'm going to go forward over the handlebars. Very interesting...I think a fitting is in order! However, I'm not having any specific issues with discomfort or pain, so the fit must not be too bad. I do think the knees would appreciate a little more seat height though. I'll just move it up a smidgen at a time I guess.

    I have been able to make it up all the hills I've tried (except that nemesis hill) and I'm really good at gearing down. I think I'm pretty good at spinning and I like to anticipate hills by getting into those granny gears a little early. I've noticed that when I hit the granniest of the grannies and I still want more gears, I just have to relax a bit and go for it. Next thing I know, I'm at the top of a hill. I am doing quite a bit of climbing (I think about 1,400'-2,000' per 15-25 miles on my "normal" routes), so I'm definitely getting practice on gearing, controlling my breathing, etc.

    So I think I'll make standing up a goal but maybe a goal for later in the future instead of a goal for tomorrow!!! I guess what it all boils down to for me is that I want to be a really good cyclist RIGHT NOW...I don't want to be a beginner! But how silly is that? I should embrace "beginner-hood" and enjoy the feeling of accomplishment when I learn new things and conquer new skills!

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    When I stop my bike, i do not first stop the bike and then get off my saddle. Nor do I stop the bike and then put my foot down. <snip> I hope this description is fathomable.
    Lisa, this is an almost perfect description of what I do, too.
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

  4. #34
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    Lisa and Starfish - I think what you do is exactly what I want to do!!!

    Do you want to fly to California and teach me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    Lisa and Starfish - I think what you do is exactly what I want to do!!! Do you want to fly to California and teach me?
    You have NO idea how good a trip to CA sounds right now in my cold northwest world! Alas, you'll have to master it without me, but you can do it!
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

  6. #36
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    You know, I just had a thought ---

    I don't think I ever made a conscious decision about standing on my bike. One day, I just noticed myself up off the seat for a little bit, as I got going at an intersection, rather than just hopping up onto the seat.

    I bet the hills will be that way too -- someday, I'll just find myself taking advantage of that extra little burst of power.

    Maybe it's going to work that way for you too!

    Karen in Boise

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    Lisa, this is an almost perfect description of what I do, too.
    Yes, and the braking action helps propel me forward off the saddle anyway while my foot is going down to the ground. It's a lovely system!

    Did I hear someone is paying our way to CA for a stopping lesson?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Did I hear someone is paying our way to CA for a stopping lesson?.....
    Ummmmm....paying? Uhhhhh, ummmmm.....well, uhhhh, no, not paying, but you're more than welcome to stay at my house

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post

    I don't think I ever made a conscious decision about standing on my bike. One day, I just noticed myself up off the seat for a little bit, as I got going at an intersection, rather than just hopping up onto the seat.


    Karen in Boise

    I know that feeling.
    I was gong downhill the other day when I realized I WAS REALLY GETTIN' IT!
    No brakes, no fear, in fact there was quite a bit of joy and feeling of accomplishment!

    I know the "want to do it now" feeling too.

    We'll get it...eventually.
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  10. #40
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    Graceful? We have to be GRACEFUL ?

    I guess I will have to get out there and get more practice.



    East Hill

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    I have read through this entire thread and tried to do it justice - though I am tired so forgive me if this has been said, but I didn't see it written...

    I too had great difficulty learning how to stand and hated the squirelly feeling when I tried, and my standing efforts would be just seconds.

    Then I found if I kept the nose of the bike in contact between my thighs as I stood, I felt much more in control...

    Now I don't need constant contact, but I still do use the nose of the bike occasionally to orientate my position on the bike in an uphill burst of speed (my uphill busts being moving from a snail to a tortoise pace )

    The only way to be able to do it for longer is to keep practising standing and slowly your body learns to expect and cope with it - you are making a greater effort to climb standing, than when you climb seated.

    I find a slight uphill gives you more control when practising standing simply because your centre of gravity changes.

    Good luck - and just keep having a go


    Quote Originally Posted by trekin'
    Would you ladies clarify why someone would want to stand while coasting
    I often stand while coasting downhill so I can stretch my legs , arms and back
    I don't lose speed and can get a much needed stretch without stopping (I don't like to stop during training rides - and of course to stop in a race is self-defeating)



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    "I will try again tomorrow".


  12. #42
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    As far as standing while coasting, I do that sometimes for visibility, I regularly ride a big hill with a hard-to-see intersection, standing a bit lets me have a clear view of any cars.

    I had the same exact problem when I first got back on a bike. I found that the standing thing came naturally as I got more comfortable with the bike. At first I was really frustrated that I couldn't do it. I could do it in Jr. High, after all, on my parents old 10 speeds that fit me miserably. So I had my LBS look at the fit on my bike again, all good, I was just a turkey. But then one day I just stood and jammed up a little hill without even thinking about it. Once I was comfortable on the bike it was all good.

    As far as clipping out at a stop, I usually ride in bike lanes and one thing that I love to do is to ride up next to a curb/ped x-ing sign etc. and use that as a rest for my right foot. That way I can stay in the saddle and keep my left foot ready to go when the light changes. I found that the thing that helped me get good at stopping and unclipping was learning to maintain my balance while riding very slow.

    BTW, I usually ride a mountain bike. I just got a road bike and am a total klutz on it. I figure that sooner or later it I will feel as comfortable on it as I do on my MTB.

    Good luck!

    Anne

 

 

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