shoes and shorts

**Jen** · 02-26-2007, 08:27 AM

Will be doing a very long ride in June. Need good shorts and good shoes. I looked at the PI microsensor short. Are they considered good, not to rub? Any others? Shoes, I have some CATs that are comfy but hear that Sidi make a comfy shoe too. Which model?

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 02-26-2007, 09:02 AM

These two shorts specifially mention they are intended for long distance riding:
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=25749
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=18035
I like that you can see pix of the chamois of various shorts on TE.

**Trekhawk** · 02-26-2007, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Jen

Will be doing a very long ride in June. Need good shorts and good shoes. I looked at the PI microsensor short. Are they considered good, not to rub? Any others? Shoes, I have some CATs that are comfy but hear that Sidi make a comfy shoe too. Which model?

Here are the two types of shorts I like for longer rides.
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=19913
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=17585

I have a pair of the Airstream that Lisa listed above and I really dont like them for rides over about 50 miles however Veronica has them and used them for her double century rides I believe and loved them. Shorts are like saddles etc different for everyone. I guess you will need to try some and see what works for you.

Have fun shopping.

PS for shoes I wear Sidi Genius.

**Veronica** · 02-26-2007, 09:33 AM

3 doubles and a century did in my LGs. I had them on for my 200K in Hawaii in December and ended up switching to my Assos knickers after about 50 miles.

I did a lot training in them too. So they probably lasted 2000 miles. I don't know if I would get another pair. They are very expensive to feel good for only one season.

I wish TE would carry Assos.

V

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 02-26-2007, 01:53 PM

Trekhawk, your second link leads to a discontinued unidentified short. Can you tell us what it was, and if it has a new model now?

**Trekhawk** · 02-26-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

Trekhawk, your second link leads to a discontinued unidentified short. Can you tell us what it was, and if it has a new model now?

Wow they were there this morning - reduced but there. I think these must be the replacement ones for 07. They look different than last years though so I cant vouch for these.

http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=22800

**Susan Otcenas** · 02-26-2007, 06:03 PM

They're almost identical to last year's. They had some problems with the 2006 chamois de-laminating and coming apart on some shorts, both men's and women's. So they fixed that problem for the 2007 version. Otherwise, the fabric and fit are the same.

Hope that helps.

Susan

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 02-26-2007, 06:13 PM

Susan, since you are reading this thread-
Which shorts on TE would you recommend are the best for riding long distances, like 60 miles a day for several days in a row? I'm pear shaped, use a Brooks leather saddle, and hope to do some light touring this summer.
Thanks for any recommendations you might have...

**Veronica** · 02-26-2007, 06:24 PM

I wore my Sugois, the earlier version of the RS, and my Castellis on my Nova Scotia tour last year. We were on our bikes 18 out of 19 days.

V.

**Susan Otcenas** · 02-26-2007, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

Susan, since you are reading this thread-
Which shorts on TE would you recommend are the best for riding long distances, like 60 miles a day for several days in a row? I'm pear shaped, use a Brooks leather saddle, and hope to do some light touring this summer.
Thanks for any recommendations you might have...

This is always such a hard question to answer, because we all have our own individual fit preferences, etc.

But here's a few of my personal favorites. (For the record, I'm 5'4", proportionately shaped, and typically wear larges & x-larges, depending upon the brand. 31-32 inch waist, 41-42 inch hips.

I love the Sugoi RS Short:
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=22800
I have last year's version and am getting ready to start wearing the 2007's. The fabric is so nice, and I really like Sugoi's mid & upper end chamois. I especially like that Sugoi's chamois are not too long front to back. The Ricaro 2 chamois in the Evolution short is technnically one step down from the chamois in the RS Short, but I still think it's excellent. And at $80, the Evolution is an awesome awesome short. One of the best values in that price range. http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=17586

I'm also a big fan of Shebeest bottoms. They fit my shape really well, and I find that the chamois is perfectly smooth and very comfy. The chamois in the Shebeest Ultra D has been designed for longer distance riding.
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=25749
Although I haven't tried the new Ultra D yet (so many shorts, so little time!!

), I do have last year's Elite Distance Short, which had the same chamois. I really like it for longer rides. For '07, SHebeest designed the Ultra D with more compressive fabric than the DriStyle that was on the Elite. The idea being that the more compressive fabric will give better muscle support, especially important on longer rides.

I also own a pair of the Louis Garneau Airstream Short. I love the supportiveness of the fabric.
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=18035 One word of caution though is that the chamois is unique on these. It's perforated. And depending upon the shapre of your butt, you either love them or hate them, as you either hit the perforations or miss them, depending upon the position of your sit bones. They get more positive reviews than negative, but it is something to think about.

I also excited about a few shorts we haven't received yet for spring. Descente has some really nice shorts coming, as does Castelli. We've just received some new Exte Ondo shorts, which I haven't even had a chance to try on yet, but I've heard great things about from a few customers who've already purchased them.

I don't know if I've helped or not.....

Susan

**Veronica** · 02-26-2007, 06:42 PM

If it helps Lisa - the next pair of shorts I'll buy will be the Exte Ondo ones. If I ever get to buy new clothes that is...

I have their knickers and tights and really like the chamois in them.

V.

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 02-26-2007, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Veronica

If it helps Lisa - the next pair of shorts I'll buy will be the Exte Ondo ones. If I ever get to buy new clothes that is...

I have their knickers and tights and really like the chamois in them.

V.

For long distances?

(and thanks, Susan!)

And i was wondering where the EO bottoms went on TE....

**Veronica** · 02-26-2007, 08:27 PM

I've done a metric century in the knickers. They were pretty comfy. In fact that's why I bought the tights.

V.

**Alex** · 02-26-2007, 09:27 PM

Can someone tell me how far down the mesh goes in the back?

Thanks.

Alex

**Jen** · 02-27-2007, 04:58 AM

You guys are so awesome, so helpful. I have been riding for almost a year now and love it. I'm learning so much from this site. Thanks for all the ideas and links for shorts. What shorts are "LG"? Also, I see ultra sensor and microsensor. I thought they had a different chamois but I think the difference is the breathability of the fabric of the short itself. Basically I guess you want seamless padding, not too think but enough to cover the pressure points. Shoes, Genius or dominator. Performance has the Zeta, Genius, and ergo. what the heck is the difference??? The ergo has a carbon mesh. I have a CAT that is carbon composite and wide toe box, not bad. Hey, next challenge is to ride down hill in the large gear and not squeeze the brakes the whole way. I think I'll die.:

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