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  1. #1
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    Is this my attitude?

    This morning by DH and I had quite an argument after the ride. We did our usual 22 miles up and down regular road. On the way out my DH wound out really fast and kept 27 mph for about 5 miles. I stayed with him until and slowed down only in the last half mile. I was under the impression that he wanted to go fast and I just needed to recover a little slower. So, on the way back he kept on pulling away and slowing down looking back at me. It was driving me absolutely mad. I caught up with him and asked him just to keep on going and not wait for me. I don’t like to be waited on especially when I well familiar with the road, and I know that he can and wants to go faster. Instead he just kept on doing the same thing over and over again.
    When we got home I told him that it makes me feel inapt. If he just keeps on looking back I think that he is telling me: “Are you pedaling there or what?!”, which to me is an insult. I do not consider myself slow by any means but I know that he is much faster. I told him that if he wants to ride with me then he should just stay with me. If he wants to ride faster, then he should just go faster.
    Instead he told me that it is all in my head. He was waiting because that’s what he would do for anyone and that’s what people do riding in groups, and because he is concerned about me. And my attitude is wrong. But then, why pulling away every 3 minutes and keep on looking back. This makes me go purposely slower.
    Anyway, we agreed that if he starts doing this again while riding with me, I would have to tell him that it is time for me to lead. I am just trying to figure out whether it is truly something in my mind. Maybe my attitude is truly messed up. What do you think?

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    Hmmmm, I would not be crazy about someone looking back at me every 5 minutes and such. It would probably make me feel slow, which I am, or should I say - it would make me feel slower, which I definitely dont need.

    Talking about it seems to me, the best thing to do. Maybe instead of the whole looking back, you can just agree to meet somewhere at a time - that way if either of you aren't there, then the other knows something is amiss.

    Finally, you are definitely not slow Lenusik, let's banish that thought real fast

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    I agree that would be annoying. But if he just started doing this since you've been pregnant, maybe he's just nervous because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebW
    I agree that would be annoying. But if he just started doing this since you've been pregnant, maybe he's just nervous because of that.
    No, that's been happening before I got pregnant. He just thinks that it is a part of cycling. I belive that it is rather annoying. But maybe I should just get over that because there are no negative thoughts in his mind about it. I know that I am not slow (if anyone can define what slow is) but even if I was, I don't want anybody even my husband to keep on looking back. I can figure out my own speed and plus I am in a familiar area. I would be upset if he just dropped me in the middle of nowhere. But I am glad that we talked and came to a certain decision. I hope it works for us.

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    He's looking back at you because he doesn't want to let a big distance get between you. I think it's sweet! I would worry if he never bothered looking to see where you are. Remember, we all see things differently. But he did clarify his friendly intentions, so now the "annoyance" feeling is coming just from your side.
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    I agree with Lisa. I can understand why you were annoyed -- but once he explained that he wasn't trying to rush you and he wasn't frustrated or annoyed with you, then it's back in your court.

    But you've done the right thing. Discuss it. Find a way to work around it.

    Which is exactly what you seem to be doing!

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    I had something like this happen on a group ride.

    I ride with the same group every Wednesday. Since I'm one of the slower regulars, I've got the job of sweeping, and keeping on eye on new folks to make sure they don't get lost between re-groupings and fix mechanicals and whatever. We had a new woman join our group who is a much stronger rider. She would go up ahead, but then circle back to the women I was riding with at the back. Couldn't figure out why it bothered me, but it did. So, as soon as she showed up, I rode ahead, since the stragglers had her riding with them. The next week, no newbies or stragglers were there, but I had stopped to help someone adjust her cleats, so I was the last one up the climbs. This woman rode back to ride with me. It infuriated me. I finally told her that I didn't need/want her to do this. I talked with her about this after the ride. I felt that it was just rubbing my nose in the fact that I was back there. On the group rides, they all just wait patiently, and I felt that this circling back was very demoralizing. In my head, folks are waiting at the top because they're catching their breathe, and they're not REALLY waiting up for us slowpokes. Since we talked, she hasn't done it again.

    My BF used to do this when we hiked. He would hike off ahead really fast, but sometimes he wouldn't look back. I used to kill myself trying to keep up, but I recognized that this was making me very resentful and mad. So, I stopped! I just hike at my pace, and I ride at my pace. I'm much happier now!

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    It's not all in your head and it would drive me nuts too. I'd feel like I was being pressured to hurry up even if that's not the intention. Cassandra has a good compromise and he can wait at a predetermined location if he needs to make sure you're okay. Or, he can back track and then you can lead.

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    Hmmmm,
    Well, if you and your DH are riding *together* than it's nice if you actually ride together. Otherwise, it's just two people out for a ride who happen to be on the same road.
    When I ride with DH, there are times when he wants to motor up a hill and I don't. He waits for me at the top.
    On our group ride, there are wait up spots. If the group splinters, we'll wait at a light, even if we go through one (or more) light cycles just standing there. It's to keep the group more or less together.
    You both have to clarify what the goals of the ride are. If they are togetherness, then ride together, since his going ahead and looking back is plainly bothering you. If he wants to hammer and you don't, either don't ride together, or have him wait for you up ahead at pre-determined points.
    But communication is the key.

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    Whoa ! so I am not alone out there.

    Testostorine really does run thick at times - sometimes I think it is subliminal on the part of the guy - they HAVE to be out ahead scouting things out and protecting the little lady (and just can't be beat by a girl)

    It has been a bone of contention with me for awhile when I ride with my BF
    He is a stronger rider than I am and in the beginning he was on a hybrid and I was on a leisure bike w/ fat tires and smaller wheels. He would be 1/2 a block ahead all the time. I would always see him glance at his mirror to make sure I was back there. In the early infatuation days I would think "how nice, he is concerned about me"

    Move forward a year - infatuation period over. I switched to a road bike last summer and can now keep up. On one ride last summer he turned and said "haven't we ditched you yet" in a joking voice. oooh wrong thing to say.

    I have finally had enough of him always riding ahead and told him so (he will walk faster also and I have to practically run to keep up unless I have my tennis shoes on)

    I feel it is extremely passive aggresive, inconsiderate behaviour. In my book if 2 people are walking, cycling whatever together the pace has to be comfortable and it is easier for one party to slow down than for the other to speed up.

    We haven't ridden or walked anywhere of distance since I told him how I felt so I don't know exactly what will happen. I plan on talking to him again and telling him we either ride together for the ride or we may as well just go out alone.

    I am a slow learner - In regards to walking I am going to ask him to slow down and if he doesn't . . . well then I have some decisions to make because that could be indicitive of bigger problems that could arise.

    Thanks for letting me vent

    And BTW he is a really nice, fun, diverse, interesting, intelligent guy overall so worth hanging on to


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    Quote Originally Posted by eclectic
    Whoa ! so I am not alone out there.

    Testostorine really does run thick at times - sometimes I think it is subliminal on the part of the guy - they HAVE to be out ahead scouting things out and protecting the little lady (and just can't be beat by a girl)
    No, this has nothing to do with my DH. I know that there are issues with his self-confidence. And if I eveb beat him, he will be only proud of me. I looks back because he is truly looking for me with concern. I just get irritaed, that's all.

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    Oh boy!

    Same story here. Not anymore/recently though.

    My partner and I have had two very ugly rides like that in the past. One of the days I was feeling really sh***y, I was recovering from a cold or something and just couldn't keep up. We were battling a fierce head wind and he just kept dropping me, and turning around to look when he was 100 meters ahead. It drove me nuts because I always felt like I was working to catch up with him instead of just doing my thing (the rabbit thing). Eventually I stopped pedalling altogether so he would disappear behind a curve, and I felt immensely better immediately.

    We've since had a few conversations about cycling together. Sometimes when I don't feel on par I'll tell him to just go ahead and do his thing. He now knows to just do it and not feel bad about it, and that it doesn't make me feel bad, either. Usually he'll wait for me at the top of the next big hill (sometimes with the camera, so I am now trained to smile when I get to the top!!). However I usually ask him, on those same days, or after a strenuous workout, to wait for me at an intersection where a long flat, slightly uphill and very windy stretch of road starts, so I tuck myself in his wheel and he gently brings me back home. He glances behind his shoulder more often to make sure I'm still in his wheel, and I'll let him know if he should take 1 or 2 km/h off his speed to save me from misery.

    With these two tricks, we've avoided those episodes of frustration. It took a few rides before he was confident that he could actually go ahead and not hurt my feelings, but he's learned to trust my word.

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    my bf will do this sometimes, though usually he tries to stick by me. he'll get about 10 ft ahead of me and tell me to hurry up. my problem is he's been racing and riding for years and years and i just started. so i know i'm not as good as he is. i'm happy when he does ride with me, makes me go faster even if he's getting ahead and looking back (which does get annoying and i usually scream for him to keep going and i'll catch up to him sometime).

    at least your DH didn't power up the hill infront of you, get off his crossbike, pick it up, run next to you for a bit while you barely passed him, and jump back on the bike and ride past you. i know he did it in good fun but i still had to give him a pretty finger of mine (while trying not to show him i was actually laughing).
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    And another one ...

    My husband did this too, and it aggravated the daylights out of me because I wanted to ride with him!

    In about two years, you can probably use our solution too: Make him carry your toddler on (or after) his bike. (Actually, I wish we had a trailer -- safer if the bike falls.) He'll be pulling an extra 20 to 30 pounds. If you REALLY want to slow him down, make sure the trailer/bike seat only fits the half-broken mountain bike with knobby wheels.

    I don't think it's your attitude. In any relationship, casual or intimate, everyone has to balance what's important to all members.

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