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    Coach?

    So many of you have mentioned having a coach. Is this someone you see regularly? Is it on line? What do you think has been the biggest benefit to having a coach?

    I wonder sometimes about hiring a coach for myself. I worry that it would take the fun out of training. "Now that I've paid someone to lay out a plan, if I don't follow through, it's a waste of money."

    My swimming and biking are exactly where they were when I started 5 years ago. I've put zero focus into training those areas. My running has improved, but I wonder what I could I do if I had someone knowledgeable helping out.

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    My biggest fear about working with a coach is that it's going to be like trying to find a good doctor, chiropractor, massage therapist, dentist, friend, spouse. I don't know if I can endure the bad ones to find the good one, and I don't know that I know enough people to get a good referral.

    I am also a little afraid of a coach that is all about training professional/elite amateur athletes, though I know they have to make their money off of more than just that.

    A lot of coaches have multiple levels - from just providing training plans, to the occasional phone consultation, to regular phone/email, to in-person.

    I also wonder about women being coached by men vs. women. Is there a benefit? Does it matter?

    I like the idea of someone who can take a training plan and make it work for me because when I compromise on a training plan I might be missing something important or just skipping rather than re-working. Having to sit down with someone and work through it might make for something that's more well-suited for me and helps me focus on where I need/want to improve.

    I'm also interested in whether they help with nutrition, provide referral to nutritionist/dietitian, or something else. Food is such an important part of training and racing.

    Looking forward to the answers to this one.

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    I don't have a coach (I have in the past...but not for tri), but I do have one in mind. He is someone I met through a friend and I've had the opportunity to watch him actually coaching his clients in two situations. One was for a timed TT simulation (20 minute indoor thing) and the other was at the tail end of a HIM. I liked his coaching style and I think we'd mesh well together. When (and if) I ever get back to running and tri, I'm going to secure his services.

    Susan should have some feedback on this one. She's had multiple coaches for multiple sports, so she probably has some helpful advice.
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    My personal trainer has a minor in sports nutrition and my work with her has really helped me to lose some body fat and changed how I eat. It hasn't made my sweet tooth go away though. . I'm also pretty convinced that all the weight work, core exercises and plyos have helped strengthen all the "little" muscles and have increased my power.

    There's no way I 'd give up my time with her.

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    Hi V.

    I've worked with coaches and I've done my own plans. I think it's really helpful to have a plan worked out and written up especially when you're trying to improve in a specific area. But, I don't think it has to come from a coach.

    When I was a coached athlete I was sick more often and ended up with injuries because I would listen to my coach before I would listen to myself. When I started coaching myself (writing my own programs using the frame work set out in Joe Friel's book, The Triathelete's Training Bible) I learned to listen to my body's feedback better and I managed to do well in my last few seasons without the illness and injury. Keep in mind that most of my coaching was happening on line and not face to face. If I told my coaches I was tired, they would often encourage me to push through it. I realize now that when I was tired, I was really tired, not just being a wimp about training. I don't think my coaches could see that. Maybe they would have if the coaching was done more face to face.

    I'm not quite done with my comments on this topic but that'll have to be it for now. I've got to get back to work. I hope to post a bit more later.
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    I've been looking at the Virtual Coach option at Training Peaks. I've been rather aimless in my training this year. That's my made my two races rather stress free so far, which kinda was my plan. And I'm having a lot of fun with my biking and running - but it hasn't really been "training" I think. I'm starting to think I'm ready to be a bit more purposeful. I have at least three more races scheduled this year - one a month.

    I have Joe Friel's book and it makes sense, but the actually planning out of workouts and filling out forms seems overwhelming and tedious. I'd like a pick list.

    You know, let me put in the dates of my races and the computer creates a calendar with what phase I should be in when. And then I can choose from a list what I need to do based on my limiters and schedule.

    Does that make me lazy?

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    That thread belongs in the "Accessories" section.

    You sound like my mother-in-law, "Can't use that; it's too nice." Use the bag.

    That's also why we started drinking a bottle of champagne every weekend. Life is short,why leave it only for special occasions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    I've been looking at the Virtual Coach option at Training Peaks. I've been rather aimless in my training this year. That's my made my two races rather stress free so far, which kinda was my plan. And I'm having a lot of fun with my biking and running - but it hasn't really been "training" I think. I'm starting to think I'm ready to be a bit more purposeful. I have at least three more races scheduled this year - one a month.

    I have Joe Friel's book and it makes sense, but the actually planning out of workouts and filling out forms seems overwhelming and tedious. I'd like a pick list.

    You know, let me put in the dates of my races and the computer creates a calendar with what phase I should be in when. And then I can choose from a list what I need to do based on my limiters and schedule.

    Does that make me lazy?

    Veronica
    I think that lazy is the last word that I would associate with you.

    I think that what you've described may be the perfect solution. I just caution people that are uber-achievers about the dangers of putting it all into the hands of another. It's easy to get caught up in the plan and stop monitoring yourself properly. For one thing, many plans don't take into account our other day to day actoivities and stressors and like it or not, those impact our ability to train, recover from training and keep from getting injured or sick.

    I am all for coaches. I better be since I am one!! I just think it's important to remember to self monitor appropriately. That's especially important if you have an online coach who does not get to see you face to face. Who can't see the bags under your eyes or the irritability that comes with over training. But a good coach is invaluable when it comes to improving your weak points and getting you past plateaus.

    I hope that helps.
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