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  1. #1
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    110mile charity cycle in 4 weeks time...can i manage it?

    At the start of Feb i ipgraded to a road bike and i signed up for a charity cycle that is taking place on the 7th July. Prior to that, the most i had ridden was 31 miles which was back in August 2011.

    In Feb i rode 208miles inc two 31 mile rides. In March i rode 282 miles inc my longest ride at the time of 43 miles. In April then up until the 13th I had ridden 165miles. On the 13th April i fell off my bike and fractured my elbow This meant 6weeks off the bike where i did nothing i started back cycling on the 19th May and on the 27th may i did my longest ever cycle of 50miles, however i had to push up one hill. The following weekend i did another 50mile cycle at an average speed of around 12 - 13 miles per hour (which is my normal speed). There were no major hills on that route so i didn't have to push. All my cycling is done by myself and it is meant to be something that is fun and not a chore.

    The charity cycle is 110miles and has 2300metres of climbing (?7500feet...sounds like a lot!!) The most climbing i have done is on the first 50mile cycle i did which had 900m of climbing (2900feet) and i had to push up the one cat 5 climb on that. I cannot underestimate how bad i am at hills - partly due to my weight but also possible exercise induced asthma which i am going to see the doctor about on Friday.

    So basically in 4 weeks time i have to be able to cycle more than twice the distance and do more than twice the amount of climbing. I have been told not to worry about the climbs - that they are drags rather than steep hills, but the one i am particulary worried about comes 85miles into the cycle and is 6miles all uphill that's a long way to push if i need to. I'm estimating that the entire cycle will take me 9-10 hrs + stops. From what i have read people who have done it before say the atmosphere is worth at least 30-40miles and that there is always someone to cycle with as approx 5000 people do it.

    I'm hoping to do my first 60mile cycle this weekend, but i really just don't know if i have done and will be able to do enough before the date.

    Do you think it is realistic that i am going to be able to acheive the cycle? I swing between freaking out and thinking it will be ok (but i think freaking is winning at the moment, hence this post!) If i hadn't broken my elbow and missed 6weeks of training i would be confident, but i'm not now.

    Thanks for listening!
    Mel
    Last edited by Mel.b; 06-06-2012 at 12:47 PM.

  2. #2
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    At what point do you need to decide whether to do it? I see no harm in pushing through the next four weeks to see what kind of training you can get under your belt and then decide from there on whether you feel strong enough to give it a go. Are there any shorter options the day of the ride? Anybody that can pick you up off the course if you start to really suffer?

    Based on the fact that you don't have a long history of bike riding already under your belt, I think it's going to be a hard event on you even if you get some good training in over the next four weeks. You just don't have much of a cycling base as it is. You also haven't already experienced the learning curve that many of us have gone through in figuring out how to hydrate and fuel for long rides--especially during warmer summer months. So, I have to say that I think you're at a disadvantage that goes beyond just how many miles you've ridden thus for this year.

    But no one can make this call but you. How much are you prepared to just gut it out? Are you fairly disciplined as it is when it comes to eating and drinking on the bike, or have you gotten into a deficit situation in the past? How fussy in your stomach? Is your elbow causing any further discomfort? Are you totally comfortable on your bike or are their any lingering fit issues? Any other physical issues?

    One last thing I'd note, I think your estimate of 9-10 hours is pretty optimistic. You will likely spend more time at rest stops than you're accounting for and you may not be able to maintain your regular pace over 110 miles. At a 12 mph average, you're already looking at 9.16 hours on the bike. Dollars to donuts you'll spend more than 50 minutes at rest stops over 110 miles, especially if the crowd is that big. That's just based on my own experience. I have done long rides and spent minimal time at rest stops, but it takes a lot of discipline, and if you're feeling tired and dragging at all as the ride goes on or are spent from climbing, my guess is that you won't be in the mood to rush.
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  3. #3
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    Thanks Indy for the well thought out reply, i really appreciate it. I think my pull out point before hand will be in the week before the event - it is just the accomodation i would need to check as to when i have to cancel before so i don't get charged. I've already said that if it is raining or blowing a gale i'm mot doing it! My 50 mile ride last week was in the rain and it was no fun there is no shorter route for this cycle and i will be going down by myself so i won't have my own support to rescue me although i presume there will be a broom wagon!

    That is a good point about fueling while on the bike and something i need more practice and experience with. Saying that i haven't run into problems yet. My first 50mile cycle was in in 80f sunny weather, which is just about unheard of in Ireland where i live.

    My elbow hasn't caused any major problems since i've been back on the bike although the rotation isn't as good which means i'm not comfortable with my hands in the centre of the handlebars which is a disadvatage for climbing. In terms of fit I'm waiting for a shorter stem and am just breaking in a new saddle. I was also getting a numb tip of my pinky finger which we determined was due to the way i was holding the handlebars causing compression of the nerve. I need to rotate my wrists out more which is not natural or comfortable yet, however on the 2nd 50mile cycle i made sure i was doing this as much as possible and i didn't experience any significant numbness.

    The 9-10 hurs was excluding the rest stops, but i agree it is probably still optimistic. The sense of acheivement in completing it this year will be so much more though than giving myself another 12 months and doing it next year. However at the same time i don't want to suffer and be miserable because this is meant to be fun for me.

    You've given me a lot to think about, thanks

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel.b View Post
    All my cycling is done by myself and it is meant to be something that is fun and not a chore.
    If there is a shorter option, I would recommend doing it. Not that you couldn't finish this ride, but boy would it be a long haul. It sounds like you are stressing about it, which is affecting your riding fun now. A shorter option would relieve stress and make for a more enjoyable experience that day.

    If there isn't a shorter option, then as long as you could sag in if needed, you can always do what you can and promise yourself not to feel like you failed if you don't do the whole 110. After all, you did have an injury that set you back in your training. Be kind to yourself!


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    It sounds like a lot of climbing to me.

    It's too bad there is no shorter option. One thing you could do is make sure in advance that there is a broom wagon, and then start the ride, hope for the best, and be aware that you can use the broom wagon option if you feel you can't finish. However this only works if you're okay with the possibility that you won't do the full ride -- some people feel very disappointed and frustrated if aren't able to finish.

    What specifically is the ride you're thinking of doing? I have a cycling friend who lives in Dublin, and I can ask her if she's familiar with it.

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    What part of Ireland are you from? Once upon a time, I dated a man from Dublin for about 18 months. We visited different parts of the country during my visits. What a beautiful place and a beautiful people.
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  7. #7
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    It is the Ring of Kerry cycle. I'm finding conflicting info about the elevation for it. Mapmyride has it at only just over 1000m and a little shorter as well! See .... http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/50954934
    While ride with gps has it at around 2000m see... http://ridewithgps.com/routes/435902

    Can i ask to do the mapmyride version?!?!

    It is meant to be one of the easiest sportives to do, despite the length. The website indicates that it is fine to reach the first food stop at 64kms (40miles) in 4 hrs.

    I'm not sure how i would feel only completing part of it - a sense of sucess but also failure i guess. A friend on facebook had up a quote the other day that said 'don't let your fear of failing triumph over the joy of participating' (john lennon) and i guess this is something i am trying to remember also.

    Indy, i'm on the west coast, in co.clare a gorgeous part of the country but am originally from australia

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    Hi Mel,

    I did my first century ride, El Tour de Tucson (111 miles) in November. My longest ride prior to that was about 75 miles, however there was only about half as much climbing as your ride will have. It took me a little over 8 hours, including all the rest stops.

    I was riding about 300-400 miles / month during July-September, did more than 500 in October, and cut back during the last 3 weeks before the El tour.


    If you are able to keep up your training this month and you can complete a ride of 75-85 miles, with at least 2/3 of the climbing, you can probably do it. If you are able to ride with others, and get the advantage of drafting for part of the way you will also spend less energy than when you are riding alone.


    OH! the Ring of Kerry- I would LOVE to ride there! I think you should train for this as though you are sure you will do it, and just assess it one more time before the deadline.

    On my one trip to Ireland (mainly for music), I was in Dingle for a day, rented a bike and rode around Slea Head. It was amazing. And then I borrowed a folding bike from my friends when I was in Clare and rode from their house in Kilshanny to Doolin and another day up past Kilfenora.

    The grades look they are mainly 2-4%, which is a steady climb but not that is not super steep. You can take a rest, ride, and take a rest again if you need to.

    Keep us posted!
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    I tend to agree that if you can work up to 75-85 miles, you can probably do this ride. And if you end up not finishing it, it will probably still be one of the longest rides you've ever done, and good experience to help you prepare for the next thing you sign up for.

    My friend hasn't actually done the Ring of Kerry, but she has heard that there are no major climbs and she said she'd be surprised if there was >2000m of climbing overall. She's also heard that people who live along the route are out offering food to the riders. I've done a few rides where people offered food, drinks and moral support along the road, and it's always a great pick-me-up.

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