Jamis Dakar XC Comp?

[Catrin]

Anyone have this bike? The only size with any hope of fitting me is the 13", and time will tell.

If this can be made to fit me, it will likely be what I will purchase after the Clinic. FS would be good for me old bones and joints, but I will get a hard tail otherwise. We are looking at 14 and 15 inch hard tails & had a good time at LBS Saturday standing over/sitting on different bikes. I've plenty of time to decide which is a good thing

Ya know, I HAVE had the thought that the clinic might be easier if I could show up with a bike that I had at least a little familiarity with instead of a free loaner that would be sight unseen prior to the clinic...but so far the voice of reason is winning out. Or is it? What IS reason after all? Time will tell

[ridebikeme]

I have no experience with the Jamis, but I do own a KHS Alite 2000 in a 15" and truly love it! Although the brand isn't as well known as some of the others, it definitely gives the consumer a lot of "bang" for the dollar... FYI. In the end,there certainly are lots of nice bikes out there, and ones that for the most part fit any budget... Have fun in your search and at the clinic, sounds like a great time!!

[Artista]

Catrin, would you be O.K. with the seat tube angle on that Jamis? 74.5 seems pretty steep for a mountain bike.

[Catrin]

Catrin, would you be O.K. with the seat tube angle on that Jamis? 74.5 seems pretty steep for a mountain bike.

I do not know, have been trying to find a FS bike through my LBS that might fit - the problem is that I need a really short effective TT, and that seems to almost preclude a stock FS. It is easier to find a hard tail that would fit me... I really wish that i had a longer reach I would like to find a 13 inch Dakar for a test ride, don't know how easy that is going to be...

The 15 inch for the FS bike is probably more realistic for everything outside of the effective TT, which is quite long. There is not a "Femme" version.

My LBS has a couple of smaller Durango Femmes they are building for the floor, and I will test ride them to see if either size will fit me. If I go for a hard tail, which is likely, it will likely be the Jamis Dakota XC Race but the test ride of the Durango will give us some good information. I do like Jamis in general and want one if at all possible.

[crazycanuck]

Why do you want a dually for just doing easy peasy rail trails??? A hardtail will do the exact same thing...



I love my dually. We still have my hardtail(now singlespeed) but it's too long in the reach. A hardtail shouldn't be shunned!

[indysteel]

I do not know, have been trying to find a FS bike through my LBS that might fit - the problem is that I need a really short effective TT, and that seems to almost preclude a stock FS. It is easier to find a hard tail that would fit me... I really wish that i had a longer reach I would like to find a 13 inch Dakar for a test ride, don't know how easy that is going to be...

The 15 inch for the FS bike is probably more realistic for everything outside of the effective TT, which is quite long. There is not a "Femme" version.

My LBS has a couple of smaller Durango Femmes they are building for the floor, and I will test ride them to see if either size will fit me. If I go for a hard tail, which is likely, it will likely be the Jamis Dakota XC Race but the test ride of the Durango will give us some good information. I do like Jamis in general and want one if at all possible.

The smallest Dakota XC Race Femme appears to have a longer top tube than the 13 Dakar and they both appear to cost the same. Of all of them, the Durango (in either a 12 or 14 inch) has the shortest top tube. Have you ruled out the Durango? It's price is certainly more attractive.

My two cents is that you should wait until the clinic. You've said it yourself that you need to see if you have the skill set yet for MTBing. It may also give you a feel for just how much bike you really want or need. If you went with the Durango, as a for instance, you could spend a $1k less and still have a very rideable bike for what you plan to do with it, e.g., easy singletrack, fire and grave roads.

Granted, in saying that, I will admit that I'm looking at your decision in the same way I looked at my own. I decided to buy an entry level MTB this past December so that I could try out the sport before investing big money into it. Given where the trails are in Indiana, I'm just not all that confident that I'll do it enough to really warrant dropping a lot of money into it. Plus, I'm honestly not sure how much I'm going to like it or whether I'll be all that good at it. If I really take to it, then I can always upgrade my bike. Plus, I'll have a better feel of what I really want in an MTB by that point. I'm just wondering if that approach would work for you, too.

Obviously, there is a flip side to that argument, i.e., that you won't like the sport very much or be very good at it unless you buy a good bike and one that takes into account any physical issues that you have. I do think that's a valid argument, so if that's where you're coming from, I understand.

[Catrin]

Why do you want a dually for just doing easy peasy rail trails??? A hardtail will do the exact same thing...



I love my dually. We still have my hardtail(now singlespeed) but it's too long in the reach. A hardtail shouldn't be shunned!

I already have two bikes that will do easy rail trails I would like to do more than that, and I've assorted body parts that like to hurt, including lower back issues. I do think that a dually would be kinder to my body in the long run and help me to be less afraid to try more difficult mountain bike trails. I also don't want\have room for more than 3 bikes

I have been told my Gunnar can handle non-techie mountain bike trails - but I don't want to take my beautiful custom go-fast bike where she will likely get scratched up Right horse for the course!

The smallest Dakota XC Race Femme appears to have a longer top tube than the 13 Dakar and they both appear to cost the same. Of all of them, the Durango (in either a 12 or 14 inch) has the shortest top tube. Have you ruled out the Durango? It's price is certainly more attractive.

.....Obviously, there is a flip side to that argument, i.e., that you won't like the sport very much or be very good at it unless you buy a good bike and one that takes into account any physical issues that you have. I do think that's a valid argument, so if that's where you're coming from, I understand.

I've considered all of this, and I do think it is best to get a bike with decent components and one that takes into account my physical issues. If it hurts me then I will be less likely to ride it, or to explore more challenging mountain bike trails. Sure I am starting with easy trails, but knowing me I will want to try more challenging terrain as my skills develop.

About the Durango - I have had more than one person tell me it isn't really suitable for Brown County State Park - it is more suitable to rail trails/gravel riding and that I would not be happy with it on actual mountain bike trails. Not everyone telling me this is trying to sell me a bike

The 13 inch Dakar is probably too small in other ways then the TT, my fitter has told me that I need to look at 15 inch bikes, possibly 14 inch. Because of fitting needs I've been told that it will be quite challenging to find a FS that would fit me properly outside of custom. That doesn't mean I am not looking however Hard tails do tend to have shorter TTT...

Jonathan DID put me on a 12 and 13 inch hard tail last Saturday just to see, but of course they were too small... The test ride of the larger Durangos will give us good information.

I greatly appreciate all of the input here - it really helps me to think things through before I pull the trigger on a third bike. I do expect my mountain bike will need replacing before my other bikes - so upgrading in the future is also in the back of my mind.