Ready to Buy a LOOK 585, Overlap Concern?

[Laguna]

I am close to pulling the trigger on a 2010 Look 585 Optimum XSmall, without riding it. I have read nothing but great things about this frame but as it is on the other coast, I am unable to test ride it. Nor are there any dealers anywhere in the area.

The frame geometry looks like a perfect fit with a slightly shorter top tube and taller head tube. However, I am concerned about toe overlap as the front center is 56.7 which I think is on the short side.

Anyone hear ride this particular frame size who can comment?

Thanks much.

[indysteel]

This topic comes up fairly regularly. You might do a search on TE about it.

While I think there are those among us who consider it a dealbreaker of an issue, many of us work around it with success. I have overlap on all of my bikes. So long as I'm careful at slow speeds, I'm okay.

[warneral]

I, too have overlap. I live with it! I'm learning to lean when I turn vs using the steering. Or steer in a turn but not pedal too much.

[chicagogal]

I agree that toe overlap should not be a major concern.With any turn taken at speed, you won't really be pedaling anyway (or even turning the handle bars) so it really isn't an issue. You know the drill, weight your outside pedal, lean bike into turn, and voila, turn navigated with foot nowhere near the front wheel. The only time I even remember I have toe overlap is when turning from a complete stop. Then I need to pedal with the handlebars turned and I have clipped my foot (at like 1mph, no problem). And how often does one turn from a stop?

And for what it's worth, I have much less toe overlap on my LOOK 585 than my previous road bike.

[smilingcat]

I almost bought one. It is a very nice bike and handles very well. I didn't mind the overlap. Rarely is it a problem. And I'm sure everyone who has the XS get used to it. Only reason I didn't buy one is $$$. I'm very cheap.

[hirakukibou]

I had a Lemond with toe overlap and it drove me crazy. I tried to be careful and aware, but it still bothered me. I sold it -- because of that and it was a tad too big for me. I have a two small Fujis and a Luna that don't have the overlap. I think it is a personal thing, about how much that kind of issue will bother you.

[maillotpois]

Wow this is like a toe overlap confessional...

I have it on my Pegoretti and the only time I ever notice it is climbing slowly or making a tight u turn. It's very easy to work around.