I'm looking at a Brooks saddle on line. Is it really comfortable with no cuts outs? Don't girly-bits get mashed?
I'm looking at a Brooks saddle on line. Is it really comfortable with no cuts outs? Don't girly-bits get mashed?
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There are about eight thousand threads on here about Brooks saddles. Just do a search and you will find lots of info and discussion about them.
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the answer to that is; the last time you sat on a wooden bench, did you feel the need for a cut out?
the wider platform supports the sit bones so you don't have to sit on your soft tissues.
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Or more accurately, as Knott has pointed out, when you sit on a flat hard bench (wooden ones are more likely to be carved into a curved shape than stone) with your legs, spine and pelvis arranged to approximate your riding position, do you feel pressure in your soft parts?
If the test suggests you do need a cut-out, there's the Selle An-Atomica (search on that, many threads here as well).
Sort of like the pencil test Zen reminded us of the other day, but at the other end.![]()
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It depends totally on your anatomy. Look for the threads that talk about sitting on a wooden bench and then leaning forward to bicycle position. If you aren't squished, you probably won't be on your Brooks (if it is wide enough in the back).
That said, there is a Brooks Imperial line with a cutout and you can send your Brooks to Selle Anatomica for an upgrade--where upgrade puts a slot into it.
Hi Dogmama,
I had been worried about whether I needed a cutout, but was quite comfortable on my Brooks B17S. The Brooks is a piece of leather over a metal frame, so it has a bit more "give" in it than a saddle on a shell. That "give" helped me to ride sans cutout in comfort. I did the AIDS/Lifecycle as well as a couple of 200k rides on my Brooks.
The wooden bench test outlined by oakleaf and biciclista is a good indication of whether you can get away without a cutout.
Also, I'm sure you know this, but if you get your Brooks from Wallingford Bikes, they have a 6 month return policy. This should give you plenty of time to see if the saddle works for you.
Happy saddle hunting!
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Dogmama, I have a Team Pro S and a Champion Flyer Special S--the women's saddles. Previously I used Specialized saddles with the cutout and I haven't found the need for the cutout as long as I have the saddle height adjusted right. I found there was a trial and error period of not only dialing in the seatpost height but the nose and fore and aft of the saddle as well. Once you get it dialed in it's pretty comfortable. One tip: if your bike allows for it, get a quick release collar for the seatpost. I made many a micro adjustment on the fly.
I also found putting a new Brooks on a bike where I sit more upright broke it in faster.
Ordered it, got it, sending it back. OMG. How can this be comfortable? It's like a piece of slick plastic over ... a board (?). Will hunt for my old fav, my Selle San Marcos.
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