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    Think gas is expensive now?

    My husband says this has been discussed over on BF.

    Has anyone here seen this article yet?

    "High Gas Prices are here to stay - U.S. Motorists should brace for over $4 Gallon Gas this summer and near $7 by 2012: CIBC World Markets Tightening global supply will drive oil prices past US$200 a barrel in next four years "

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/24292484/

    If this is accurate, we are in for one hell of a roller-coaster ride, folks...
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    That's scary! Maybe we should've done something about this in the 70's when we had a little thing called the oil crisis back then. Hmmm... maybe we could've had more alternative fuel sources by now and this wouldn't be an issue. Hmmmm....
    Actually, that makes me not so sad. If gas prices continue to get higher, more people will ride their bikes and then there'll be more of "us" out there on the roads. Maybe my city will then start putting more bike lanes in so us commuters/errand runners on bikes will have more safe places to ride.... bwaaa haaa haaa (my evil laugh).
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    gee, and if maybe the gov't rewarded car manufacturers for making fuel efficient cars...
    and if maybe people rewarded car manufacturers by BUYING fuel efficient cars.

    I've stuck with my 1991 Honda for years simply because after mine was made, the gas mileage of newer vehicles just got worse and worse. There are a few cars on the horizon that give me hope, but unfortunately, there are just a handful.
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    I think the part that I find the most scary is that while car sales have dropped in this country and in Europe (which I did not know), they are rising exponentially in Russia, China and India. Yes, it would help if we had more efficient cars...but the bigger problem is the massively increased demand for gas in other places by the sheer increase in numbers of cars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLC1968 View Post
    I think the part that I find the most scary is that while car sales have dropped in this country and in Europe (which I did not know), they are rising exponentially in Russia, China and India. Yes, it would help if we had more efficient cars...but the bigger problem is the massively increased demand for gas in other places by the sheer increase in numbers of cars!
    But it's not like we're not to blame. This country guzzled oil like a frat boy at a kegger. We ran through our own oil fields decades ago, making us completely dependant on the Middle East, people who really don't care to give us their quicky depleting supply cheaply so we can drive to our mailboxes. Who can blame them. Their oil is running out, too, and what are they going to have left once it is, some sand box you can't grow jack on.

    Yeah, the rest of the world is using more oil, but it's because we decided to give them all of our manufacturing jobs, while we (those who lost said jobs) lived off real estate buying, selling and building, and the lending of money. Looks like that was a good plan .

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    It's not the Middle East we're dependent on - not so much for oil, anyway. The vast majority of our imported oil comes from elsewhere in North America. And the price of gas in the USA has more to do with the weak dollar (which don't even get me started on what's responsible for that) than with anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    But it's not like we're not to blame. This country guzzled oil like a frat boy at a kegger. We ran through our own oil fields decades ago, making us completely dependant on the Middle East, people who really don't care to give us their quicky depleting supply cheaply so we can drive to our mailboxes. Who can blame them. Their oil is running out, too, and what are they going to have left once it is, some sand box you can't grow jack on.

    Yeah, the rest of the world is using more oil, but it's because we decided to give them all of our manufacturing jobs, while we (those who lost said jobs) lived off real estate buying, selling and building, and the lending of money. Looks like that was a good plan .
    Of course we are to blame, that wasn't my point. My point is that it's getting worse at an alarming rate, despite efforts (by some) to conserve.

    The world got wise to the concept of fuel efficiency in the crisis of the 70's when houses became better insulated and cars got smaller. Then, when the economy boomed opnce again, everyone seemed to forget that fuel is a precious commodity that should not just be burned up so that we could drive bigger cars and live in bigger houses further and further away from where we worked.

    But what so many people don't realize is that the cost of driving the SUV isn't going to be the issue when gas is $7/gallon. Food is going to be crazy expensive. EVERYTHING is going to be crazy expensive. The amount of fuel that is consumed to create even things like all the components that go into a PC is truly staggering. Cars are only a tiny fraction of the massive consumption that our lifestyles have created. It's sad, really. Depressing, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    I've stuck with my 1991 Honda for years simply because after mine was made, the gas mileage of newer vehicles just got worse and worse.
    WTF is up with that??? I've been SO disappointed with my Prius. Everyone else that has one just seems to love it. IMO it's a huge scam. It gets 3 mpg better than my '83 Nissan Sentra used to... and I used to run around with that thing floored all the time. Granted it handles better, has all the safety bells and whistles, but that shouldn't affect the gas mileage that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri Girl View Post
    If gas prices continue to get higher, more people will ride their bikes and then there'll be more of "us" out there on the roads.
    Mixed feelings too. I predict a whole lot of anger and people feeling deprived. I was talking with someone at work the other day who said that they used to drive freely and without thought for the cost, now they "link trips" and do a loop: we have to run this errand and while heading there we can do this and pick up that on the way back. And they said it like it's a bad thing

    Well, I've done that all along, it just saves so much time.
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