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    Angry Starting out on the road not the gym

    Hello,

    I am starting to ride my bike partially to work and then catching a bus. I was used to riding a stationary bike in the gym then switched to recumbent and now will try to pair the recumbent bike at the gym with riding to work.

    The ride to and from the bus stop is a little over a mile and then when I get to work a couple of blocks each way. At the gym I ride for 40 minutes, rouhgly 7 miles.

    My problem is this, although I am new to riding on the road, I seem to have gained thighs and not really lost much else as my muscles have taken the weight away from fat. Although I feel a lot more fit, my clothes haven't really loosened up and in fact my thighs have become so muscular that I am needing to go up a pant size to accomodate them.

    I am becoming frustrated and feel like I am doing all of this in vain. The main reason why I work out is to keep healthy and fit, but at the same time am just above my "healthy weight". My stats are 5' 5.5", 132-135 lbs and 24 years old. I have started eating healthier portions and more veggies, drinking almost 5 glasses of water and green tea (together make 5). I get around 6-8 hours of sleep. Help! I'm not going to stop riding because I love the way it makes me feel, but coming from being a teenage of being really thin (same height but a weight between 100-115) I can't take being over 130. My ideal weight is 120-125 but I don't know how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiki1682 View Post
    The main reason why I work out is to keep healthy and fit, but at the same time am just above my "healthy weight". My stats are 5' 5.5", 132-135 lbs and 24 years old. I have started eating healthier portions and more veggies, drinking almost 5 glasses of water and green tea (together make 5). I get around 6-8 hours of sleep. Help! I'm not going to stop riding because I love the way it makes me feel, but coming from being a teenage of being really thin (same height but a weight between 100-115) I can't take being over 130. My ideal weight is 120-125 but I don't know how.
    I am 5' 5 1/2" too, and my ideal weight is what you weigh right now- 132-135. I still have 10 pounds to lose to get there.
    If you ask me 120 is still too thin for someone your height to be.... they would have no muscle. "Ideal weight" should be what you are healthiest at, not what you "think" you look best at. Most young people in their 20's have the idea that thin=healthy, and due to supermodel media brainwashing they see themselves as too heavy when they actually are not at all. Being thin is not a measure of fitness.
    Good for you on wanting to be healthy, and getting lots of sleep and eating more veggies! Most people don't get enough sleep at all. Don't forget the carbs and protein though if you want to build muscle and have lots of biking energy.
    Keep doing that good self-loving stuff!
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    Lisa, while I totally support your sentiment I'm going to gently disagree with your rather categorical statement that "120 lbs is too thin for someone 5'5" to be."

    I'm 5'6" and currently 125. (FWIW I'm 27). Last summer I was 120 & looked and felt better, and I'm trying to get back down. Between biking, running, swimming and **weight training**, I'm pretty strong and I have some seriously big thighs (my bf and I have a running joke that I beat him up hills b/c my "thigh to weight ratio" is bigger than his, because my thighs are in fact an inch bigger than his. I'm alternately proud and a little mortified by this). I also have decidedly curvy hips/butt and that's where the extra five pounds is right now, and it's not muscle . When I was lighter I felt better not because my rear looked a little less jiggly in a bathing suit, but because I felt faster, stronger and more energetic.

    I say this only to illustrate that we all have different frames and body types and depending on these factors, women of the same height can be healthy at a very wide range of weights. But I certainly don't mean by sharing this anecdote to encourage a sort of race to the bottom where thinner is always better.

    My suggestion to the poster (I'm sorry, I've forgotten your name, promise I'll check after posting and remember next time) is to keep eating healthily (don't "diet"), and to add miles. Cycling burns **around** 40 cals per mile (varies greatly due to speed, wind, bike weight etc), running burns about 100 cals per mile. So if you can work in some longer rides or some runs regularly on weekends or after work, I think you'll start to see some weight loss, along with some gorgeous muscles !

    Good luck. I think we've all been there (or are there).
    Last edited by VeloVT; 07-21-2007 at 10:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liza View Post
    Lisa, while I totally support your sentiment I'm going to gently disagree with your rather categorical statement that "120 lbs is too thin for someone 5'5" to be."
    Actually, I said "If you ask me 120 is still too thin for someone your height to be"
    which clearly identifies it as my opinion, not as a "categorical statement".

    But other than that I agree with everything you said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Actually, I said "If you ask me 120 is still too thin for someone your height to be"
    which clearly identifies it as my opinion, not as a "categorical statement".

    But other than that I agree with everything you said!
    Well, the statement is categorical (regardless of whether or not you explicitly identify the view as your own) because you've applied the characterizations "too thin" and "having no muscle" to an entire category of persons (those 5'5"ish and 120 lbs), without admitting the possibility of exception. There are a lot of folks generally in that category and some of them (me) might object to being thus characterized. (Plus if you saw me, you wouldn't be tempted to call me those things).

    However, I'm in complete agreement with the general view that it's much more important to be healthy and strong than it is to be thin.
    Last edited by VeloVT; 07-21-2007 at 10:23 AM.

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    I'm someone who's never had to worry about my weight. after I started seriously riding my bike I GAINED almost 10 pounds. A lot of it was in my abdomen, but most of it was in my legs. I filled out and my thin legs got
    bigger and nicer. As I continued to ride and work out this year, I have lost a couple of those pounds and converted some of the fat to muscles in my shoulders and arms and back. So now I weigh about 122 lbs and i am 5' 3.5"

    I think the fashion industry has not a clue as to what a woman should look at. THey use anorexic models to hawk their wares and as you all know the average american is rather overweight, there's a big disconnect there.

    So like Lisa, I try not to pay attention!
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    Quote Originally Posted by liza View Post
    Well, the statement is categorical (regardless of whether or not you explicitly identify the view as your own) because you've applied the characterizations "too thin" and "having no muscle" to an entire category of persons (those 5'5"ish and 120 lbs), without admitting the possibility of exception. There are a lot of folks generally in that category and some of them (me) might object to being thus characterized. (Plus if you saw me, you wouldn't be tempted to call me those things).
    However, I'm in complete agreement with the general view that it's much more important to be healthy and strong than it is to be thin.
    It's good to be able to express opinions here, and it's also good to be able to object to them!
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    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    I am 5' 5 1/2" too, and my ideal weight is what you weigh right now- 132-135. I still have 10 pounds to lose to get there.
    If you ask me 120 is still too thin for someone your height to be.... they would have no muscle. "Ideal weight" should be what you are healthiest at, not what you "think" you look best at. Most young people in their 20's have the idea that thin=healthy, and due to supermodel media brainwashing they see themselves as too heavy when they actually are not at all. Being thin is not a measure of fitness.
    Good for you on wanting to be healthy, and getting lots of sleep and eating more veggies! Most people don't get enough sleep at all. Don't forget the carbs and protein though if you want to build muscle and have lots of biking energy.
    Keep doing that good self-loving stuff!
    Lisa,
    Thanks for the positive input. I think that I do have a poor perception of my body image because I have been exposed to fashion media most of my life. Probably doesn't help that I am working in the industry too where people are really thin and really tall. I will keep up at it. Just out of curiosity, do you ever feel like mainstream fashion companies that make clothes try to make people fit into them by being smaller than an average human?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiki1682 View Post
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    ... but coming from being a teenage of being really thin (same height but a weight between 100-115) ...
    That was high school! I don't even want to think what I weighed then. I always say, "it's all downhill after high school"


    One point I don't think was addressed is what percentage of those pounds are composed of adipose tissue (fat) compared to lean muscle mass.

    This is why I hate to see women get so focused on how much they weigh.

    Considering how young you are I know it's going to be a few years before you really feel comfortable and confident enough to simply accept you body as it is, especially because society and the media are so focused on youth and thinness (did anybody see Victoria Beckham? How is that attractive?)
    Just continue to stay active and eat right throughout your life. There are other things to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiki1682 View Post
    Lisa,
    Thanks for the positive input. I think that I do have a poor perception of my body image because I have been exposed to fashion media most of my life. Probably doesn't help that I am working in the industry too where people are really thin and really tall. I will keep up at it. Just out of curiosity, do you ever feel like mainstream fashion companies that make clothes try to make people fit into them by being smaller than an average human?
    I grew up in the 1950's-70's and there was plenty of fashion media issues then too. For example, girls were made to feel "unclean" about their menstrual cycles, and we were urged by society to spray our private parts with nasty chemical deodorants, refrain from physical activities and flush ourselves out with perfumed douches to somehow become "pure and wholesome" again. Crazy!
    I have a Woman's Day magazine from the 1960's that describes how you should put a lighter shade of "leg makeup" on the fronts and backs of your legs and a slightly darker shade on the sides of your legs in order to make your legs look thinner. Imagine spending all that time on such nonsense! We'd never have any time for biking!

    Most women tend to agree that as we get older, we become more interested in living our lives well and less interested in what others think.
    One thing to keep in mind is that the fashion media is not really interested in either our physical or emotional well being, rather they are primarily interested in getting our money.

    You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. May you enjoy biking for the rest of your life! (I wish I had not abandoned it for 37 years in between....but hey at least I'm biking again now at 53, and enjoying it even more than i did when I was a kid)
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    I'm just a fraction over 5'5" and my weight is running around 122-5. But I'm small-boned. I do keep track of my weight but if it is an issue, often it may be better to take measurements rather than weigh.

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    I'm 5'6" and 165 lbs. I'm definitely fatter than I should be (waist in wrong place for my body shape, "apple" belly developing, 33 inch waist). If I get back to having a 26-28 inch waist, I'll be a lot healthier. Even if I do get back to a healthier waist measurement, I'll never have a "normal" body shape. A 26" waist puts me at 38" hips or so, and 28" waist puts me at 40" hips. I have curvy calves, solid thighs, and a round butt. And since I'm not a lot over my healthy weight, it's entirely possible for me to lose fat and not lose weight. And really, if I'm 165 and mostly muscle, that's a win

    I've also been as low as 110, in lifeguard training and the same height. Bad scene. I looked like a concentration camp victim, with a 24" (or less, I was scared to check) waist. Bones jutting out all over is *not* a good look for anyone. Especially not in a racing suit.

    It's normal and healthy for your thighs to get bigger when you exercise them. Most pants aren't cut well for any woman's body, and the curvier you are the worse it is. Not that skirts are better... few of them are designed for women who have a real waist *and* real hips at the same time. I've got all these measurements because most off the rack clothes don't fit me, no matter how healthy or unhealthy my weight is :P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiki1682
    My problem is this, although I am new to riding on the road, I seem to have gained thighs and not really lost much else as my muscles have taken the weight away from fat.
    Part of the reason I started cycling was to get fitter - and part of that is losing weight.

    I lost no weight in the first year, but my body changed shape - yes my thighs became kind've solid but my dress size went down. I have only seriously started losing weight this year (I'm in my thrid year of cycling).

    Your body makes changes but they are not always the ones we proritise, and they don't always happen as quickly as we want. Take heart, the changes you want will happen, you just need to continue being consistent.


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