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  1. #1
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    failing to fix a flat

    I was doing so well with the cycling but getting up to distances when it would be a LONG walk back to the car and home if I got a puncture - so tonight I was calm relaxed patient.... and decided to practice in the comfort of my living room...

    2 and a half hours later reduced to tears - ugh-- getting tire off - no worries - getting the beading bits back into the rim - impossible - thought I got it once and kerpop... squished tube - pinch flat--- cant even get the tires back on now...

    VERY disappointed and oh so frustrated I cant do something as simple as this-- hands all cut up and raw and an unrideable road bike...

    guess I goto the LBS and ask for a lesson to show me how, huh? been and read lots of internet articles, little videos, etc but still 2.5hrs later with raw battered hands and no success :-(

    hope the LBS can show me where I am going wrong - hope it is something simple and not something I just havent got the hand strength to do

    Frustrated newby with one inflated wheel and one in parts on the living room floor :-(

  2. #2
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    Bat,
    Read this thread and get one of these levers, it will REALLY HELP:
    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...813#post221813
    Lisa
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  3. #3
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    thank you

    i'll see if i can get one--
    obviously i am not the only one to have difficulties...

    i will try the LBS tomorrow and ask about it - and ask them to put my wheel back together--- how embarassing..

  4. #4
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    Don't be embarrassed, you tried.
    I've never even tried!
    It's probably something simple that's missing in your method.

    But yeah, those speed levers do look interesting.
    2008 Trek FX 7.2/Terry Cite X
    2009 Jamis Aurora/Brooks B-68
    2010 Trek FX 7.6 WSD/stock bontrager

  5. #5
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    You know way more about changing a flat now than you did before you tried. It just means you're already half way through the learning process!
    Lisa
    My mountain dulcimer network...FOTMD.com...and my mountain dulcimer blog
    My personal blog:My blog
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  6. #6
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    I had absolutely no idea how to fix a flat and I had no one to ask about it when I got my first one. Sounds like you already have the right idea but getting the tire back on is fighting you. Here's what I did to figure this all out:

    Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79cmQlACL6s

    If the link doesn't work, you can just go to youtube and type "repair puncture" in the search box.

    It's kind of a goofy video, but I followed the instructions and next thing you know, I patched my tube, got everything put back together, and was up and running again.

    I did find that the hardest part was getting the tire back on. I used one of the tire levers to push it into place. If you have brand new tires, it seems to be harder. Now that I've had my front tire off four times, it's a lot looser. I'm hoping four flats in as many months will be enough to last me a while!

    I was really frustrated too, but I did it. You can too! Good luck!!!

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by batsheva View Post
    hope the LBS can show me where I am going wrong - hope it is something simple and not something I just havent got the hand strength to do
    Even if you don't have the hand strength right now, trying is good. That's how you build up hand strength.

    At least on a bike you won't run into the problem of a bolt being tightened so much that standing on the end of a 3 foot breaker bar doesn't give you enough force to loosen it . That was a common experience for me with car tires... I'm pretty strong, but I'm not strong enough to break loose a bolt that has been tightened with an air wrench.

    Most things are easier with an in person lesson. It *will* get easier!

  8. #8
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    A few tips about the tube. Put a little air in it so that it holds it's shape when you are getting the first side of the tire on the rim. Then work the tube inside the rim and start the 2nd side of the tire. At this point, air in the tube works against you and makes pinch flats more likely, so let out as much air as you can and run your finger around the inside the tire bead to ensure that the tube will not get pinched between tire and rim. Now work on as much of the 2nd side of the tire as will go easily. Try to let even more air out of the tube by squeezing the 2 side of the tire together.

    The last part is difficult, as you discovered, and it really depends on how tightly the rim and tire fit together. Campy rims are a little larger in outside diameter and are known to be hard to mount tires on. Some tires are slightly smaller in bead than others and harder to mount. You could ask your LBS to recommend tires that will be easier for you to mount.

    The job becomes easier by getting the proper leverage and using your thumbs effectively. You should be holding the wheel so that the last bit of bead to be pushed over the rim is away from you. I like to squat and lay the wheel flat on my legs. Then use the meaty part of your thumbs, with both thumbs close together and working on the same bit of bead. Push a bit of bead over the rim with 2 thumbs, then move to the next bit. The last push is actually the easiest. The hardest bit is with about 6" left to go.

    Good luck. You can do this. Remember, it's not strength that counts, but leverage.
    Oil is good, grease is better.

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  9. #9
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    Changing the tubes was one of the first lessons I got after I bought my bikes. If your LBS offers a Bike 101 repair class, I'd recommend it. The shop I bought my bikes from had one and I learned alot!!! Changing the tubes gets easier! If you have a mountain bike, it's probably going to be easier than the road bike. Definitely invest in some tire levers... I carry 2 per bike and 3 in my camelback. It will get easier! Don't give up!!!

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerJen View Post
    If your LBS offers a Bike 101 repair class, I'd recommend it. The shop I bought my bikes from had one and I learned alot!!! Changing the tubes gets easier! It will get easier! Don't give up!!!
    Yes, yes, and yes!

    I had to do a clinic at my LBS to learn how to change a tube/tire. I felt embarrassed when I showed up, but I was not alone, and they had a woman showing us how to do things, so she talked a bit about some of the tricks she uses because she has smaller hands. Not that I can remember any of those tricks at the moment...

    It will get easy!
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    2009 Jamis Coda
    1972 Schwinn Suburban

    "I rejoice every time I see a woman ride by on a bike. It gives her a feeling of self-reliance and independence the moment she takes her seat; and away she goes, the picture of untrammelled womanhood."
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  11. #11
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    signed up for class

    thank you ladies for your words of encouragement-- i signed up at the LBS for next bike maintenance class which apparently spends 95% of its time teaching people how to fix flats -

    the guy at the LBS didnt make me feel dumb at all for not managing - but he just whizzed around pushing it in like it was soft butter in like 30 seconds all up with no apparent effort-- practice I guess :-)

    HOWEVER - i was so grateful for not being made to look like a dumb-girly like we get all too often with car mechanics - y'all know the non-verbals we get at times...

    well, I was so grateful, I upgraded my front derailleur from tiagra to 105 to match the back - tee hee - the upgrades commence :-) just $60 this time.... but saw these FAB wheel set too... hmm... :-)

    i read on the internet all over that there was little point in upgrading the FD up just one class like that, but compared to my 105 rear de-r, it felt relatively 'lumpy' so i changed out anyway - and WOW, what a difference it feels like - the tiagra worked 100% fine and was corrently adjusted but just the speed and smoothness of the shifting is definitely so much better with the 105 FD, whatever the internet reviews say-- i am thrilled to bits with it - and more importantly, my bike is no longers in bits on the floor after getting the LBS to help out--

    oh-- also got a little cyclocomputer too whilst i was there :-D
    just a cheapy-cheapy until i know exactly what i will be wanting later down the line with those, when i can spend the $ then...

    thanks again for your support everyone!!
    batsheva

 

 

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