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    Question New Rider Needs Diet Inspiration

    Hi Everyone,
    I have been riding my Orbea since November 06 and have logged 773 miles. I love it and look for every oportunity to ride. I am a Pastry Chef and as you might guess have weigh issues, I need to loose about 30 pounds. My body is changing some from riding the bike but because I don't have enough will power to leave the desserts I make alone I have not noticed any weight loss. Each time I ride I tell myself not to "blow it" the next day when I get to work, but I usually do. Some days I control better than others. Does anyone have some advice to help me with my will power issues?

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    I cannot limit my eating. If I try, I just end up feeling deprived and eating MORE.

    So I try to ride more rather than trying to eat less.

    (and I try to remember to eat a piece of fruit just before prime snacking time. I still eat the other goodies, but with less hunger roaming around my brain and tummy I think I end up eating less of the goodies.)

    Are you eating enough dinner so that you aren't too hungry when you get to work the next day?
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    Probably not. I just did a short ride (12 miles) a couple hours ago and have not eaten anything yet. I have a mind set that I should not allow myself to eat at night I have eaten the wrong things during the day.
    I like your idea of not depriving yourself and eating fruit before snacking.
    I also like what you said about riding more.
    Thanks for your response.

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    Welcome Pam. Knot has some really good advice. I too do not deprive myself, or I tend to think about the "forbidden" food all the time. I personally am one who absolutely cannot workout in any way without eating something. Also, make certain you are drinking enough. Good luck. There is a diet/lifestyle change thread for those of us losing, maintaining, toning, etc under the Nutrition section. EDIT: Oops you did post in this thread. I really need coffee and migraine meds and a lie down....

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    I've found that being educated on how many calories I'm actually eating is the thing that makes me stick with my plan. I have a LOT more weight than you to lose (I started at 280 on Feb. 8th and my goal is 140, but currently I'm at 270).

    I use a program called Diet Power (www.dietpower.com). I can eat what I want, but I know what I'm eating. I haven't felt hungry, and nothing is really off-limits, but the goal is to stay within your calorie budget. Basically, you answer some questions about your height and weight, etc., then you put in how much you want to lose and in what amount of time. The program tells you whether this is a do-able goal.

    What I'm doing is putting in a weight loss of 10% of my body weight for a six month period. Once I reach that goal, I'll start a new one for another 10%, until I reach my goal.

    Oh, and welcome to TE!!
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    I second counting calories. Without doing that, you have no idea how much you're actually eating. It really opens your eyes. I personally use a program from calorieking.com and have lost 35 pounds since September.

    Also be careful of not falling into the trap of thinking, "I rode 12 miles; I can eat whatever I want." If losing weight were *only* about exercise, then I'd be 120 pounds by now.

    Don't also fall into the trap of skipping meals because you want to lose weight. This will only make you hungrier and prone to binges later.

    Let us know how you're doing! I know if you watch what you eat, watch your portion size and make healthier food selections you can achieve your goal.
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    You will just know that you are going to finish and that was what you set out to do."
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    My diet - hope this helps!

    Your issues remind me of mine! I am relatively new to cycling and have a huge appetite, plus I love to cook. I am a bit of a foodie!

    I made myself some little guidelines that have worked well:
    1. When I get home from a ride I immediatedly drink one of those liquid yougurt things (the small ones).
    2. I also buy those little carrots and eat them while making dinner, which takes the edge off the appetite.
    3. I have a good lunch, like a BLT, or an egg salad (with dill and capers) sandwich on interesting bread, or sushi. Anything good with lots of protien and some carbs.

    The idea is to not let yourself get too hungry, but to eat stuff you like. I did loose about 10 lbs. (painlessly!) on this over 3 months, since January! Of course, I increased my biking and spinning too.

    Everyone has told me I should drink Gatoraide on long rides, but I worry about all those calories and sugar - do you have any info or ideas on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bklynmom View Post
    Everyone has told me I should drink Gatoraide on long rides, but I worry about all those calories and sugar - do you have any info or ideas on that?
    On rides shorter than an hour, just drink water, it's fine.

    On rides longer than an hour, you need to start intaking some sugars because you brain needs them to function correctly (your brain can't work on the energy your body draws from fat), among other reasons. Not responding to that need will eventually cause you to bonk and to make really stupid decisions, which can be dangerous, especially if you're far from home and alone. Depending on your weight and the intensity of the exercise, you need something above 200 calories per hour, so probably the equivalent of one bar or gel and some sugar from a drink.

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    Thanks bklynmom. Your ideas are really great. I find at work if I let my self get too hungry I want to snack on the sugar. I am becoming more aware of when I eat the wrong things and how much better I feel when I eat good healthy food. On the days that I get to cycle I make better food choices because I feel so good about my effort I don't want to blow it.

    I have also worried about drinking things other than water because of the calories and the advice from "grog" is exactly what my husband told me and he insists I put this powder stuff in my water if I ride for over an hour. I will find out the name of it and the nutritional info when I get home from work and post it here.

    Thanks again,
    Pam

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastrypam View Post
    I have also worried about drinking things other than water because of the calories and the advice from "grog" is exactly what my husband told me and he insists I put this powder stuff in my water if I ride for over an hour. I will find out the name of it and the nutritional info when I get home from work and post it here.
    I like some of the expensive stuff for energy drink, like the Clif lemonade drink. But basically a 4$/can lemonade from the supermarket (they even have one that's organic) with a pinch of salt is just great. It's not covering the whole spectrum of electrolytes, but the other gels and bars (and bananas) I eat do.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bklynmom
    Everyone has told me I should drink Gatoraide on long rides, but I worry about all those calories and sugar - do you have any info or ideas on that?

    The powder I use is called CYTOMAX. The flavor is Go Grape. It has 90 calories per scoop. You can read about it at cytosport.com
    My husband has been riding all his life and buys this one for us. He also uses Hammer Gel. I believe he buys it at his favorite bicycle shop.

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    Hi Pam,

    I bet your friends love your job! I think I'm like most people in that I don't like to feel deprived. I am also in the minority because I don't really think about calories, I refuse to be around scales, and I despise dieting.

    What I do try to do is this. We walk absolutely everywhere. We hike, we go out on the bikes, and we're rarely sedentary. If we go out to dinner, we usually walk to the restaurant. Sometimes it's up to five miles round trip! When we go to the grocery store, we walk unless it's a huge shopping trip. We eat out tons and when I'm bad, I am bad. At home I try to make decent choices (ie egg beaters, whole wheat/grains, turkey bacon) of things that I am so used to, I don't even know the difference. In restaurants I also try to make good choices unless I'm having huge cravings for something. We split the appetizer and dessert and generally I have enough dinner left over for lunch the next day.

    The bad part is I did stop riding/going to the gym for about a year and I'm paying for it now. Now that I've started back up, my clothes are starting to fit again. We also tend to have free flowing beer, wine, and bloody marys at home. If we didn't do that, I'm SURE I'd be tons lighter!

    So I guess this rambling post just means to choose your battles. Try to move around a lot, try to make the best choices you can, but also enjoy it when you sin. Unless you're training for something or you want perfection.

    You know what also? Just came to me. The more you eat sugar, the more you crave it. If I don't eat chocolate for a long time, I don't want it. When I do, the floodgates are open Maybe it'd be good just to do a week long (or so) detox from sugar?

    Ok, I'll shut up now!

 

 

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