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  1. #1
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    Long Runs 10/19 - 10/22

    Had my longest run in a while today, a tame 13 km. It was slower than usual but we maintained conversation all the way so it's not that bad. I was thinking about the gals running a marathon this weekend, it kept me going.

    I discovered that my pain threshold - the moment when I start slightly feeling my quads and knees - came at 1h10m instead of the regular 55m, but then I realized that I had taken 2 advils when I woke up because of a terrible headache (still a bit congested).

    We also discovered new trails which were extremely pleasant in the Pacific Spirit Park. These make me look forward to the next long run (because they're a bit far for a normal run).

    This week my "short" runs take me 8 and 9.5 km, and next week's long run is a 15km. I'm visiting new, uncharted terrain (for me!).

  2. #2
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    (yellow goes to the converter, and finds out that 13 km is 8.07782549908534 miles.)

    Right on, Grog! I'm only up to the 7 mile (or 12.07008 km) range. Do you run on trails all the time? I've (very) recently decided that's all I'm going to run on. My knee doesn't hurt as badly if I run on dirt.

    I have no idea how far I went today as I have no way to calculate and did not wear a watch. My guess is about 7 miles, all on up-and-down trail. I walked two hills. It was a very, very lovely run . I did 6 miles yesterday on a different very nice trail; those are the longest back-to-back runs I've done since I started running again. I continue to be amazed at how building a base by cycling has allowed me to jump into mileage I thought would be unattainable for a couple of months (I started again in mid-September after almost 4 years off). "Muscle memory" (whatever that is) has something to do with it as well; I almost feel like my old running self.


  3. #3
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    I run a mix of trails and pavement, depending on the time of day and weather (when it rains the trails in the forest can be nicely shielded from the worst).

    It is nicer on the knees and on the mind too.

    I find that cycling has helped with running... but not that much. Riding hills has helped with the cardio and for running on hills as well. That's a good thing!

  4. #4
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    Congrats Grog! Enjoy the new trails.

    I alternate between pavement and trails. I prefer trails, but some days it just is not possible to get there.
    Jennifer

    “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.”
    -Mahatma Gandhi

    "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."
    -Aristotle

  5. #5
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    Didn't get to post over the weekend, but we did our second 10 miler on Saturday. At this point we're feeling "cautiously confident" about the half marathon. Next Saturday is 11 miles.

    Yellow and Grog, you're right about cycling making running easier -- I'm a much stronger runner since I started riding. Too bad I'm still a wimpy rider.

    Run on ladies!

    KB

  6. #6
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    Did 8.5mi yesterday - was wanting 10, but I did a hard ride Sat and when the clouds started rolling in, winds picking up from the north, and getting colder at 11am, I headed back home. At least I got that much in, though.

    Found out today that I'm not on call for the weekend of tje 1/2 mary, so no excuses not to do it. Now I just have to actually sign up.

  7. #7
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    Well, I did my second to last long run yesterday. This is really disgusting, but I almost found it fun. The more of them I do, the easier they get. Maybe because I'm getting faster, maybe because I'm getting the mental technique down? Who knows. I'll take easier.

    I ran somewhere between 20 and 24 miles yesterday (I deviated from my 4 mile loop on the last loop, so I don't really know, and I ran out of water so I stopped and walked instead of pushing for the last mile). Faster than the last 20 mile loop including the extra miles. WTF? Whatever. Weather was sunny but chilly, between 35 and 40 degrees. Still hoping to finish under 5 hours, maybe down to 4:30 but I won't hold my breath given the terrain difference on the course vs. my weekly runs. Finishing at all will be great.

    On my last loop, I went up a hill close to the beginning of the loop instead of one in the middle. I thought about repeating it, but that's where I ran out of water and headed home instead. I know the marathon couse I'm doing is hilly at the end, so on my next long run I will be trying to repeat hills a bit (that sounds brutal, long runs and hills... but you gotta do what you gotta do I guess). I have also been sprinting at the end of EACH loop for up to 1/4 mile to make a note of how that feels each time.

    Mentally, taking the runs in 4 mile loops has helped me a lot. I think "just 6 1/2 loops" to a marathon instead of 26 miles. I set a goal for each 4-mile set, generally I have been doing "under 45 minutes" and considering the minutes I finish faster (which starts out 5, then degrades) as a "bonus" that I can "spend" at the end of the marathon if I am tired. So far I haven't been spending them unless I get rocks in my shoes, or have to stop to toss my gel packets in the trash, or have some other wardrobe malfunction. I mark off the loops as I get to them -- mile 4, I say out loud "that's one!" then mile 8, "that's two!" and so on. I am literally doing loops, but I hope this helps me when I'm doing the marathon in one direction as well. I will ignore my time until I get to 4, then check and calculate my "bonus" time.

    Also, I have been practising visualisation. If I feel my face wrinkling or squinting in the sun, or if I am feeling tired or beat up, I loosen up my arms, relax my neck/shoulders, and imagine the "feeling" of success. I will visualise something that made me feel proud of myself (it can be simple, like someone laughing at a joke, or a nice meal with friends), and I will visualise the last time I crossed a finish line feeling strong (for me, very recently, at the half marathon -- even though I was slow, I sprinted to the finish and crossed feeling awesome). I also imagined the other runners this weekend finishing their races, which helped me imagine me finishing mine.

    Now, I am a little torqued because my $85 CW-X pants are falling apart at the inner seams where we humans have thigh-rubbing issues. They have a hole in them, and one seam rubbed where it normally rubs against the other, except there was that hole thing, and now I have what can only be called Chafe City on the inside of my thigh. ARRGH. Any suggestions on how to fix them? I don't have a sewing machine, but I really love these pants. I wear them every time I run. Maybe I will wear something over the top of them after I fix them (shorts or something? light waterproof track pants?). HELP.

    After my miles (and PB&J among other foodstuffs), it was time to put in our sprinkler system in the backyard so I got to squat over trenches and dig them out (already dug with a ditch-witch, but dirt had fallen back in), wrangle 1" pipe across the yard, screw in sprinklers, and fill trenches for about 4 hours. On the bright side, at least I finished my run faster than we finished putting in the sprinklers? My back is not impressed, but my legs just feel normally stiff, not extra stiff.

    One more long run then it's taper time... Next week is a tame 10 miles, then my LAST long run of 20-26 miles (20 miles for "just want to finish" and 26 for "beginner on a mission" -- I usually divide the difference), then two 12 milers, then my marathon. It's coming up fast!!

    Off to read everyone's race reports... I'll be back looking for advice on my cool pants

 

 

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