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  1. #1
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    Ever heard of this?

    There is nothing worse than not knowing what something is called, but I am intrigued enough to make a fool out of myself.............just call me the intriguing fool

    An older gentleman cyclist from our area just happens to sell bike stuff out of his home - tubes, tires, etc. Tonight I purchased tubes from him - he even delivered them to my home - not the point, just wanted to comment on the nice gesture.

    So we were talking about flats - I am on my fifth flat since I started riding outside. All of my flats are due to goatheads. He commented that he has a part on his road bike and could not for the life of him remember what it was called. This part sits just above his tire (he has one by the front tire and one one by the back tire) and it removes, or scrapes the goathead thorn from the tire before the tire can revolve again and puncture the tire. It doesn't touch the tire. He is an older man - I'd bet he's 68 or so. He said he purchased them years ago. Again, he for the life of him could not remember what they were called. He said he has not seen them in stores, either. He also said that he only gets about 2 flats an entire season, and he rides nearly every night, 20 miles.

    This was a new one to me. Has anyone else heard of this?

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    Apparently not (so far, anyway).
    Can you take a photo and post it?
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    I've seen these before!!

    My LBS (Hi Chris!) says "The device she speaks of was called a " Tire saver " mounted to the brake caliper using a spring piece of wire (generally made from a bicycle spoke) to constantly brush the tire tread in hope of dislodging glass slivers and the like before they could penetrate all the way to the inner tube."

    Yes they work, yes I've seen them before though not so much now.

    But they work, and don't drag on the tire. And they look cool too. My LBS has a customer who is a mechanical engineer, he custom makes these. So if anyone here wants one I can put you in touch.

    Of course you can always brush the tire with your glove from time to time or when you suspect you went over glass. I've seen riders who can even sweep clear the rear tire in motion.

    I tried that once, it's why folks call me Trek-old geezer with 8 fingers-420
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    Hmmm, sliver of glass in my tire, sliver of glass driven through my glove and into my tender sensitive palm....

    I think I'd rather have the Tire Saver.
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  5. #5
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    You have a point there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    Of course you can always brush the tire with your glove from time to time or when you suspect you went over glass. I've seen riders who can even sweep clear the rear tire in motion.
    Front tire is easy with that (that's why good gloves are a must!).
    A friend of mine can do the back tire, too. I'm a bit nervous about that one and prefer to pull over, given the opportunity, and rotate the tire and check it visually.
    Wet roads are really bad for causing flats.
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    I had them on my old Gitane...STICKER FLICKERS is what I called them. I NEVER had a flat with these things...

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    What about a tire liner? I use the cheaper, heavier tuffys but there are lighter versions. Works for me both mountain and road though the worst we have prolly doesn't compare to a goathead. Doesn't save the sidewall, just the tread area, which, again, works for me all but one time so far. In 15 years of using them.
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    I just use my hand to clear debris off my wheel.

    You don't have to rub your hand hard against the tire. If anything, you just want to brush lightly. I "brush" the wheel between my thumb and my forefinger. glove is a must and I have yet to get cut with glass shards, sharp pieces of metal or a nail.

    The front wheel is done by placing the hand in front of the brake caliper where the wheel has cleared the brake calipers and rotating away from it. If you are unsteady, you can brace your hand against the brake caliper.

    The back wheel is done by reaching between your leg and just behind the seat tube. Never place your hand where you can get your hand caught between the brake caliper and the wheel. Also when you do this, its easier if you are coasting and not pedalling. Riding a straight line makes it easier too.

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    am I just too cheap or what? I patch my tire until they have about a half a dozen or so patches. Never had reliability issues with patched tires. I just find it so wasteful when people throw away the tube wih one simple flat. newer glueless thin patches are useless. The old fashioned with glue kind works really well.

    tire liners/protectors. they worked really well for me, though I haven't used them in a long time. It's a bit of hassle.

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    Last edited by smilingcat; 05-15-2008 at 05:51 AM. Reason: patching??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    My LBS (Hi Chris!) says "The device she speaks of was called a " Tire saver " mounted to the brake caliper using a spring piece of wire (generally made from a bicycle spoke) to constantly brush the tire tread in hope of dislodging glass slivers and the like before they could penetrate all the way to the inner tube."
    Ok... so they brush the tire... constantly, to dislodge glass etc...

    Then how does this work >
    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    But they work, and don't drag on the tire.

    If they brush the tire, they must cause some drag on the tire... yes?


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    They can be bent and adjusted so that they float ever so slightly above the tire (distance about the width of a business card).

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    My 'sticker flickers' rode just a hair above the tire. They were flexible enough for me to bend them around the tire, but they didn't 'rub' the tire. They would 'flick' the sticker (goat head) before a revolution of the tire, hence not lodging their prickly little thorns to cause damage. I had them in the 70's ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    My LBS (Hi Chris!) says "The device she speaks of was called a " Tire saver " mounted to the brake caliper using a spring piece of wire (generally made from a bicycle spoke) to constantly brush the tire tread in hope of dislodging glass slivers and the like before they could penetrate all the way to the inner tube."

    Yes they work, yes I've seen them before though not so much now.

    But they work, and don't drag on the tire. And they look cool too. My LBS has a customer who is a mechanical engineer, he custom makes these. So if anyone here wants one I can put you in touch.
    I am interested! I have used 4 tubes so far at $5 a pop - pun intended. I recently found some for $3 each, but I am sick of changing tubes after long rides. How much and can we see a picture of them?

    Thanks!

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    Shameless plug of my fave LBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Flybye View Post
    I am interested! I have used 4 tubes so far at $5 a pop - pun intended. I recently found some for $3 each, but I am sick of changing tubes after long rides. How much and can we see a picture of them?

    Thanks!
    Owner of Robinson Wheelworks, in San Leandro CA, Chris Robinson has a client who's a cyclist and a mechanical engineer. He says this guy can make 'em custom for your bike. He says it's usually a 2-3 week wait for the tire thingies. Feel free to PM me for his contact info.

    He's a tiny shop, just two awesome, funny, smart guys. So be patient if e-mail takes a while. But I imagine he can put you in touch with this fine fellow.

    Tell him Trek sentcha! If he says "huh? " "She's the gal with the Mondonica, GT, Motobecane & Giant. The one who's single handedly dropped the 'average cost per RWW bike price' by bringing in her bikes"

    There's quite a few TE'ers who go to Chris.
    Last edited by Trek420; 05-15-2008 at 12:37 PM.
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    Trek, I would be interested also....

 

 

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