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  1. #1
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    Is there a good way to fall?

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    I practiced with my new clipless pedals in my backyard today... and well, I ran out of yard and didn't clip out. Stretched my arm out to my right to catch my fall and sprained my wrist. Is there a safer way?
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    Good thread here:

    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=6697

    Glad that you are ok. Easier said than done to conquer the instinct to put your hand out but may be worth a try.
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    OH thanks Trek!!!! I searched but didn't come up with that. I will check it out.
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    learn the drop and roll technique? Mostof the time when you fall, it happens so fast that you don't have time to react with a practiced response, but your body does tend to instinctively to try and protect itself.

    good luck, and buy good gloves if you find yourself sticking out your hands.

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    My gel gloves and my completely covered body helped I am sure... no blood at least. Have any of you heard about the idea of slightly turning to the direction you are falling, and putting both hands out to even out the effect? Sounds scary to me.
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    Y'know, just a couple of days ago when they had that big crash in the Dauphinée, I asked DH (who never lets go of the remote ) to replay it in slomo so I could watch the one guy go over the bars. Only because I remember flying through the air in December, and I wanted to see what it looked like.

    He put his hands out. I don't know if he broke his collarbone or not. I know they always say not to, but is it really better to land on your chin as I did, and risk breaking your neck? I think collarbone is a better sacrifice...

    (Actually I think the reason I didn't put my hands out is because I never let go of the brakes ... still trying to slow down with both wheels in the air, wound up spraining both wrists and just about everything in my right hand. It certainly wasn't a conscious choice not to put my hands out.)
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 06-12-2011 at 03:11 AM.
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    Cool The good fall is the one you're able to ride again

    watch this guy, his ukemi (that's Japanese for fall) is actually quite good

    http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/20...-many-objects/
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    Once when I was going over sideways I remembered someone telling me "never let go of the bike." (weird how you remember things in a split second)

    I held onto the bike and kind of rolled, it turned out ok.
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    Wear elbow pads and knee pads. You can fall all you want and not get hurt. Then eventually you will feel comfortable and confident and you won't need it. I guess you should also wear wrist guards.

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    I think the lesson here is that it depends on your trajectory - there's no one good way - and the bottom line is in a panic situation we will do what muscle memory tells us, so unless we go to stunt school (like that guy in that NYC bike lane video) it's sort of a useless discussion.

    I should've let go of my bike - if I had, I wouldn't have had such bad sprains. (I thought it was 100% by now until I tilled up my garden last month ...) Falling to the side, probably it is best to keep holding on (and keep braking).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    Once when I was going over sideways I remembered someone telling me "never let go of the bike." (weird how you remember things in a split second)

    I held onto the bike and kind of rolled, it turned out ok.
    Glad that it did I got "right hooked" by a driver who simply had to whip ahead of me for a Wendy's drive through. I saw a spot I could take a roll in and not get hit by other cars and went for it.

    It turned out ok. I was pretty shaken up, but don't know if it was the idea of almost getting squished or the fact that cement is a lot harder than mats I'd been training on.

    I feel the fall we walk away from or recover from is a good one.
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    Props to that stunt guy... but if I was upset to get a ticket, I'd think of another way to protest!!!!
    Yes to the 'trajectory" idea for sure. Every situation is different.
    Also yes, yesterday I should have just held on to the bars, allowing my whole side to take up the impact. I did that once (not on a bike, but tripping over a dog and I drove my elbow into my ribcage, but spared myself worse injuries.
    Today I jumped on my MTB for a ride and put the road bike back on the trainer so I can train a bit more...
    Thanks for ALL your input. Next time I head to the grassy backyard... I'm positioning lounge chair mats in strategic stopping places... and wearing armor, till I get this right!!!
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    I've been riding for many many years. And when it comes to falling/crashing, things happen so fast that there really is no reaction time.

    And each fall is different. Sometimes putting your hand out with gel'd glove will protect you. Sometimes putting your hand out will break your wrist or forearm or damage your elbow.

    Sometimes trying to roll to keep from breaking your hand or arm, you could break your collarbone.

    This is why you should wear a pair of gloves and a helmet! Gloves preferably gel'd ones. Instinctively most people will put their hands out to break the fall.
    That little gel padding in your glove does give you some added protection.

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    [QUOTE=OakLeaf;581033]
    Y'know, just a couple of days ago when they had that big crash in the Dauphinée, I asked DH (who never lets go of the remote ) to replay it in slomo so I could watch the one guy go over the bars. Only because I remember flying through the air in December, and I wanted to see what it looked like.
    Was that the cattle crash Oakleaf??
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    No, a day or two before that. I can't remember exactly what precipitated it, but I think somebody just touched wheels and there was a big pileup then.
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