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  1. #1
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    No Skin Left After Falling Clipped-In

    I had a pretty bad fall today while riding clipped in. Both legs are really cut up from the concrete and large chainring. I also fell Monday but my car somewhat broke my fall. I'm a newbie at going clipless and don't want to give up just yet but I suspect I will fall again and re-injure the fresh wounds.

    Do you have any advice for preventing falls and/or protecting my legs while learning to ride clipped-in? Carm

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    owwwwwwwwwwie!

    owwwwie! I have yet to fall badly, a couple of Artie Johnsons but not enough to break the skin. Good for you not giving up. You *can* do the clipless thing.

    First tend to the wounds, obvoiusly clean them, antibiotic, do the first aid thing.

    While that's going on do you have tights? When I watch the TdF or races on OLN I've heard it pointed out that so and so is wearing tights because he fell and wants to keep the wound comfy.

    Can you practice clipping and unclipping till it becomes an unconcious action? Indoor trainer? Spin class? Kitchen doorway? Check that your pedals are at their loosest setting and just clip, unclip, clip, repeat....
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  3. #3
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    Ouch! I'm sending fast healing wishes your way...

    When are you falling? Is it because you're stopping and forgetting to unclip? I actually fell more in the old days when I was getting used to using cleated shoes with toe clips & straps because I needed to release the strap with my hand! But with clipless pedals, the problem went away pretty quickly. What I did was try to always unclip one foot - in my case the right foot becauase that's the one that I tend to step down with - as I was coming to a place where I needed to stop. If it turned out that I didn't need to stop, I just clipped in again.

    Do you have a trainer you can use with your bike? If you do, that's a good place to practice unclipping quickly.

    Can your pedals/cleats be adjusted to release easier? I ride with Speedplay Frog pedals that are a totally free-float system with no pressure to release, but I know that it is often possible with other pedals to adjust the amount of pressure that needs to be applied to unclip.

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    Thank you for the healing wishes. I was so close to taking my bike back to the LBS and having them put the toe clips back on but I figure I'll give it some more practice before I do.

    The times that I have fallen, I was stopped: my right foot was unclipped and my left foot was clipped in. I leaned a bit to the left in both instances and over I went. I think the problem is my understanding of the foot order of how I should clip in and out and which way I should lean my bike. When I stop, I usually clip out with my right foot and leave my left foot clipped in. Should I unclip both feet when stopped, even at a stoplight?

    I'm using Eggbeaters and am encountering no problems clipping in or out as a result of the pedals or shoes - just my brain.

    When I fell Monday night I was wearing leg warmers and they helped a bit, however the chainring still pierced my skin. Today, I fell twice, once right after another with bare legs as its warming up.

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carm
    Should I unclip both feet when stopped, even at a stoplight?
    I only unclip one foot when I stop, and I step down and stand on that foot only. It sounds like you either need to think hard about not leaning toward the clipped in side when you're stopped - or maybe you should try unclipping with your other foot. I'd be surprised if you need to unclip both feet, but that might be something to try until you're more comfortable with the clipless pedals. I really think you'll be happy that you stuck with it once you get past this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carm
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    The times that I have fallen, I was stopped: my right foot was unclipped and my left foot was clipped in. I leaned a bit to the left in both instances and over I went. I think the problem is my understanding of the foot order of how I should clip in and out and which way I should lean my bike. When I stop, I usually clip out with my right foot and leave my left foot clipped in. Should I unclip both feet when stopped, even at a stoplight?

    I'm using Eggbeaters and am encountering no problems clipping in or out as a result of the pedals or shoes - just my brain.
    OOOPPSSSS... you have SpeedPlays. Eh... I will leave the other post for others to read.

    Here is what I was taught... BEFORE you apply your brakes... UNCLIP.

    You also have to think to yourself, "I will unclip my right foot and lean to the right when I stop". Yes, it's a lot of thinking!

    I even unclip if I see a potentionally *dangerous* situation that might require a quick reaction. Such as... kids riding bikes on the bath, a dog running around, a curb coming up.

    It sounds like you need to stay out of areas where you might run into danger if you fall down.... such as busy roads.

    Finally... I have hope for getting better at it... and so should you! I know that the other week, I started to lean to the right, but my left foot was unclipped... I quickly unclipped my right foot and I didn't hit the ground! I was shocked! And that was BEFORE I had the SpeedPlays!

    I think it will be like learning how to drive a stick shift. You think about it for a long time, and then one day.... before you know it... you are driving that stick shift without thinking about it at all!

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    keep strong...you will get it

    I fell the first day I got my clipless, just a beginner after all... I was at a stop and I was about to take off. One in the clip and the other touching ground....the one on the ground I used to push me off as if a scooter, instead of having the clipped in foot at the 12 oclock position and pushing with it. I did not get enough speed yet got the other foot clipped in and to keep balance at the slow speed I turned my handlebars naturally and down I went. Never again since then. I learned to push off with the clipped in and get the other foot on top of the clip even if it is not clipped in completely I continue to pedal the best I can with both to get the speed and try get the foot clipped- sometimes it was not on the correct side and have to flip pedal over and try again.. I had shimano SPD-R at the time and they are not easy to get clipped into, small base on cleat and the lip was small and narrow to catch on to the pedal. The pedals were not weighted well so often they would be in the wrong position to put foot, not a dual entry pedal.
    . I just got my new shoes (Shimano 215) and new pedals (SPD-SL Ultegra) this week. .Not dual entry but bottom weighted and larger cleat with pronounce lip to engage easily. Much better. More like the Look set up.

    Also..some advice to keep safe...
    AVOID looking down at the pedals to engage...Need to practice by feel while getting clipped in, much like you do when you learn to type. Without looking at the keyboard. It could be potentially dangerous if you are looking down at the feet and not the road.
    Great that you are not giving up, we all have to start somewhere and you are already a winner for not giving up. You will get the hang of it!!
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    Wound protection suggestions

    Road rash type wounds do very well with moisture retaining dressings like "Tegaderm" , "2nd Skin", or "Spyroflex". You can usually find one of them in a drug store, or someplace with hiking supplies like REI, EMS, or Campmor. These keep the wound moist, letting the new skin cells migrate across the surface for faster healing, and also minimize scarring. They are also quite protective themselves. I was still wearing one on a road rashed knee when I hit a sand washout on an unfamiliar road and went down. I acquired some more road rash around the Tegaderm, but the original injury was protected completely.

    Tights may give some protection, but I've also gotten "Tight rash" in a fall that did not tear the tights, but did make a mess of my knee.

    Yes, yes, I know my handling skills aren't great. I'm working on it.

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carm
    I had a pretty bad fall today while riding clipped in. Both legs are really cut up from the concrete and large chainring. I also fell Monday but my car somewhat broke my fall. I'm a newbie at going clipless and don't want to give up just yet but I suspect I will fall again and re-injure the fresh wounds.

    Do you have any advice for preventing falls and/or protecting my legs while learning to ride clipped-in? Carm
    First off... that sounds so scary! Sorry to hear it! That is my BIGGEST FEAR!

    Now, my advice on how to prevent that in the future ... go look at getting SpeedPlay pedals. Seriously.

    Why?

    1) The pedal itself is just this flat disk. There is no way it will scratch you up.

    2) It is VERY EASY to get out of the clips.


    Now, if you can't do that... start wearing long pants for cycling when you ride. Also, get gloves on, if you don't have them already... so your hands won't get beat up when you fall.

    I will also suggest wearing something long sleeved under your jersey to protect your arms.

    Best of luck.!!!!

  10. #10
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    I backed the tension screw off until it was very easy to clip out (and kept in mind that it was also very easy to unclip unexpectedly) until it became second nature-then tightened them back up.
    I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.

  11. #11
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    Talking Welcome to the club

    This happened to me the second day I rode using clipless pedals/cleated shoes. I thought I heard something drop from my bike, and came to a quick stop, before releasing a foot. Duh!! I slowly toppled over toward the right, landing on a very gravelly road. My right leg and knee were pretty scraped up, with rivulets of blood running down into my nice new bike socks. I had fun picking the pebbles out of my skin....

    I don't know any way to prevent this other than just being more careful and getting more mileage. I'm just very conscious now about my surroundings, and when in doubt, I release a foot. It's easy enough to slip it back in when conditions warrant.

    That was a month ago, and the scabs are just now truly gone. The skin is still pink and raw-looking. I think I had permanently scabby knees as a kid, so maybe this is just my second childhood.

 

 

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