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  1. #1
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    How Tired Are You After Riding?

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    I'm wondering how tired you are after doing a moderate to hard ride? For me moderate to hard is about 2 hrs with an avg. computer speed of 15.5 or more. I ride on T,Th, and Sat and do a "boot camp" style workout on M,W,F. Sundays I usually don't work out. On Saturday mornings after a moderate to hard ride I am just completely wiped out. I get home, eat something, take a shower, and then I am just wiped out the rest of the day. Most times I take a nap for a few hours and even then I'm too tired to go and do anything. I just lay around the house and watch tv. I feel exhausted! All my other rides/workouts are in the evening so I go to bed within a few hours of getting home. Is this common?
    As we must account for every idle word, so must we account for every idle silence." ~Benjamin Franklin

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    I started riding road regularly last spring. Before that I was doing little work outs on my own at home, weight lifting videos, etc. Walking on the treadmill. in October, I started a boot camp thing MWF in the mornings.

    All last year I was always wiped out by all the stuff I was doing. Just like you described. Couldn't operate, had to nap. That kind of ended in February. I still go to boot camp, and yesterday was only my second real ride this year (the first one was in early March, group ride--it's been cold and windy and rainy all through April and until now).

    I don't get that tired feeling anymore. It took me a while to notice that I wasn't vegging out every afternoon by 2:00. I got home from BC this morning and dug trees and boxwoods out of the landscape. We've started running more in BC, and I think that's helping my stamina a lot. I haven't been watching my diet much lately because I'm busy with youth baseball, so I don't think that's much of a factor.

    I've recently crossed the 40 lbs lost threshold, so maybe it's the weight loss that has given me the pep, but I don't think so. I think my body has just adapted, finally.

    Anyway, hope that gives you some hope that it should be better. Have your iron checked, too.

    Karen

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    I'm not a doctor, but my level of tiredness seems to vary depending on the ride, how much riding I've done that week, and how much sleep I'm getting. Most people don't realize that hard exercise is also a form of stress and that your body can't differentiate between being buried in too much work at the office or taking a long, hard ride. So, there's a thin line between overdoing it and not when you're stressed out anyway.

    Other than that, I make sure to eat right after a ride (4:1 or 3:1 carb to protein ratio), stay hydrated, and make myself stay up and doing stuff because the couch feels way too inviting sometimes!

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    My theory is that by working to just exactly under the "really stressing" exhaustion level, I can get the strength and endurance gains and not the breakdown stuff. A good chunk of that could be mental. I know that I've caught myself in a "they're faster than me" paceline thinking "I know I can't keep up with this, I know it" and... I ride differently and I'm breathing differently and it isn't as effective and ... I can't keep up. Sometimes I have succeeded in telling myself "Of course you can't keep up with them! YOu're just not this fast! But just have a really good mile or two and then you can drop off." And I was more efficient and breathing better and I could keep up. But I don't even try if I don't feel 100% and haven't been riding much. That's the advantage of *not* racing - I can set my schedule. So people think I'm faster than I am, because when I ride all out it's on *my* peak day, not some race day that somebody else picked
    If I'm exhausted, usually it's been hot, or I haven't had enough sleep.

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    Anytime I increase my hours of working out per week even by about an hour, I'm more tired. I know this because I was trying to move from 3 to about 5 hours/week of exercise all this term (since about Feb) for my summer tris and I was pooped. I'm still a bit tired, but it's getting better. That's not much compared to what you're doing, but any increase over an hour I reallly feel for awhile.

    Tri training programs have cut-back weeks in them. That works for me!

    For me that means extra sleep.
    Last edited by teawoman; 05-19-2008 at 10:49 AM.

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    Lately, I'm tired most of the time. This is our third year on daylight savings time, and it has really messed with my sleep patterns. Or I should say that it really messes with my cats sleep patterns, who then really mess with me. They typically start acting up around 5 each morning so I more or less lose the last 1 1/2 hours of sleep.

    Typically, I ride hard on Tuesdays and Thursday for 25 miles. I ride long--60-75 miles--on Saturday and again on Sunday. Depending on the group, those might be a fast clip or a kinder, gentler pace, but lately it seems like it's more the former than the latter. I usually do a slow recovery 20-mile ride on Monday and/or Wednesday depending on the weather. I fit yoga in when I can, and I usually take Friday off.

    Anyway, by the time I get home in the evening, do some chores and eat, I'm beat. It's not ususual for me to fall asleep on my couch by 9 or 9:30. I really need to just get in my bed but it's become a bad habit. I'm usually okay Saturday afternoon and evening to do something productive or fun, but by Sunday afternoon, I almost always take a nap for an hour or two. After the Horsey Hundred this weekend in Kentucky, I'm pulling back for a week or two to give my body some rest. I also need to drink more water. I think I'm chronically dehydrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geonz View Post
    My theory is that by working to just exactly under the "really stressing" exhaustion level, I can get the strength and endurance gains and not the breakdown stuff. A good chunk of that could be mental. I know that I've caught myself in a "they're faster than me" paceline thinking "I know I can't keep up with this, I know it" and... I ride differently and I'm breathing differently and it isn't as effective and ... I can't keep up. Sometimes I have succeeded in telling myself "Of course you can't keep up with them! YOu're just not this fast! But just have a really good mile or two and then you can drop off." And I was more efficient and breathing better and I could keep up. But I don't even try if I don't feel 100% and haven't been riding much.
    +1 most certainly agree at riding just under the "really stressing" exhaustion level, so that you aren't wasted for the next 2-3 days. Of course, that's not totally possible on a self-loaded touring ride where you are under the gun to complete distance ...to make sure you have a place to eat and sleep by the end of each day!

    Recently I've noticed myself yawning occasionally during a ride. I never did that during the f first, few years of cycling where I was cycling more mileage annually. Much of that is due to the fact I probably don't get enough sleep now. During the week when I have to wake up so early (4:30 am) for my work commute during the work week. Then the weekend s,I have annoying problem of getting my body NOT to naturally wakeup so early. (I don't need alarm clocks to wakeup. My body does condition itself to set wakeup times very naturally.)

    I don't think I would make a much of randonneur, pulling in nights of riding in the dark. After 2-3 days of back-to-back cycling of 80-100 kms. per day, during a self-loaded touring ride, I want to fall into bed and nap for an hr. in the middle of the afternoon...even when it's blazing gorgeous sun out there.

    However it helps, that I do some slow stretching a few hrs. after riding, it seems to prevent me from feeling too tired all over and relieves muscle tension, which partially causes feeling of depletion.

    I seem to cycle-function best if I take 1 day off bike every 6-12 days of consecutive cycling where of those days, would be cycling 16-30 kms. for work commuting (latter distance was done when I lived in different city), with weekends of 40-80/100 kms. each day.
    Last edited by shootingstar; 05-19-2008 at 03:03 PM.

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    How tired am I? See my pathetic, sympathy-seeking thread in the Newbie forum. Heck, I got exhausted just reading li10up's workout schedule.

    Seriously, though, some days I react the same way (just want to flop down on the couch and stay there forever) and other days I have lots of energy leftover after a ride. I haven't yet figured out the why's of that, though; it seems quite random.

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    So you are working out 6 days a week at a high intensity? No wonder you are pooped. You may need to back off a little and factor in another day of rest. Rest will bring gains, not losses. Otherwise you could be on the fast track to overtraining.

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    wow,y'all are reminding me of my deep appreciation for my lifestyle that allows me to get a good night's sleep just about all the time.
    when I was a schoolteacher, it was late-nighters and then recovery on the weekends and holidays. (Snow days were sleep days.) Heck, that had been true my whole entire life. I was one of those people who could get by on 3-4 hours of sleep on the short term - less if I had to.
    Snork... unemployment meant I could sleep. I believe riding the bike kept me from simply drifting into depression. I started riding more - and doing more, which shocked me, because getting focused wtihout deadlines was simply a notness for the first 40 years of my life. I made an educational website, added to it regularly, got a freelance writing job and kept up with it (despite no clear deadlines!!!)...
    And now that I"m back working full time, I"ve worked hard to keep that sleep and exercise thing happening. I am *much* more effective and functional. I am notorious for being able to ride *forever* - but I b'lieve it's mainly because I *do* get enough sleep and eat and drink kinda sorta sometimes right.
    ...but still prone to distraction. Back to that software project, now!!!

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    I agree with the mental game, too. I have a severe dread of squat thrusts and jumping jacks, but I know if I just start doing them, they'll be over in no time, and I'll wonder what I was stressing over.

    I didn't have that kind of mental tenacity when I was younger.

    Karen

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    Bootcamp is fun and I took it for awhile last summer. Then I strained my good knee on the carpeted floor. Cripes! End of Season 1.

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    wow

    funny you should post this b/c I am wasted today and wondering why... I'm almost 55 y/o and am riding about 100 miles a week, and sometimes - I don't know why - just dropping after a ride. I do a lot of major hills (live on a super-hilly island) so the mileage isn't all of it - I can do a brutal 20-mile ride with 6 substantial hills... At any rate, I did five consecutive days of 20-20-20-20-30, and today I'm empty. How much does age factor in?
    "Indeed, I found a whole philosophy of life in the wooing and the winning of my bicycle." -Frances E. Willard, 1895

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    I am lucky to be able to sleep when I want, too. That's a biggie. I go to sleep around 10:00 and sleep until the birds wake me at dawn. I'm always up by 7:00, but Saturday morning I slept until 7:20. Very unusual. But no alarm clock ever if I can help it.

    (I'm thankful for my husband and my choices which allow my life to be so good!)

    I've made sleep a priority in my life. I think that helps.

    Karen

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    it seems to me that some people seem to equate fewer hours sleeping to somehow being smarter or busier or just better (?) - I have never understood this, for I need sleep! When I run a lot and bike a lot I sleep more. This is how my body recharges and how I manage not to hurt myself. When I lose my precious sleep, I tend to get sick. Though having said that, six days a week of high intensity work outs is just begging to get hurt or sick! Your body needs time to recover. Even when I'm doing crazy miles running, my daily runs are kept pretty short (4-6 miles), and of fairly low intensity. Same goes for riding for me - If I'm going to do a century on the weekend in the hills, I keep my daily rides/runs pretty easy. Listen to your body and rest as needed - take two pieces of chocolate and let us know how you feel in the morning

 

 

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