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doesn't diet coke contain aspertaine/aspertane (sp)...I thought diet coke was bad for you..:confused:

CC, yes, diet coke does have nasty things in it but sugar isn't one of them.

Nutrasweet/Aspartame is possibly linked to MS-like symptoms. Another one of those wild controversial reports where you don't know who to believe.

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

Nutrasweet/Aspartame is possibly linked to MS-like symptoms. Another one of those wild controversial reports where you don't know who to believe.

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Yup, that's what the docs thought was going on with my mom, until she went to a diabetes specialist who asked the all important question: how much diet soda do you drink?

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Originally Posted by KnottedYet

There's also the behavioural aspect, like one study that had folks who ordered giant diet sodas also ordering giant burgers and fries (thinking it was ok, cuz after all they are cutting out calories from the soda, so some extra fries can't hurt, right?)

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I can attest to that. Back in the day I was a cook (that was waaaaay back) the number of orders of "I'll have the quiche, cheesecake, side order of onion rings, giant fudge and brownie sundae ... oh, and a diet coke" :rolleyes:

I just look at the ingredients and "oh, that can't be good for me" :rolleyes:

Well, I can't I'm pure even though I dislike soft drinks of any sort...am a coffee (at work because it's free) and tea(because it's cheaper) drinker at home.

Back to the cleansing and constipation bit...always good to have a balanced diet of healthy fibre and liquid from the food groups, fat-free, sugar-free.

If I haven't had veggies or whole fruit for a few days, I feel quite "off".

And there is a rule of thumb...to eat approx. feeling 80% full. Unfortunately, many of us, including myself broke that rule for past few weeks.

The human body is an incredible complex machine. It's incredible there are multiple different processes go on inside us right now --for thinking, feeling, breathing, food processing,.... and alot of those microprocesses work on a particular internal clocks/frequencies that we can't begin to replicate all of these processes in an artificial body.

Mindboggling.

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Originally Posted by shootingstar

Back to the cleansing and constipation bit...always good to have a balanced diet of healthy fibre and liquid from the food groups, fat-free, sugar-free.

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You have to have some fat in your diet. The body won't without it, particularly the brain. Maybe that's my problem . . . . . . . .

I order diet coke because I prefer the taste. I find sugar coke way too sweet - almost syrupy.

You you get real sugar in your Coke, or the fructose syrup like we get in the US?

Coke with real sugar, not the corn syrup stuff

http://drinkbluesky.com

I have no idea. I just call it sugar coke because it tastes like sugar. I think it's probably syrup. I think I have a bottle here, I'll go look...

...it say sugar/glucose/fructose on the bottle

oooh, you have the good stuff!

i love real sugar cola. i get "blue sky " and "jones" brands here. our Coke and most other big brands are hfc.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

Silver are you reading this? (She's been in denial...I'm convinced her bone density issues are related

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http://enews.tufts.edu/stories/092503Tucker.htm

just google bone density & sodas to see way more info. www.mercola.com has lots of good info too

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Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

The problem is "I KNOW you're right!" and I still do it!

Here's a promise to you:

For one week I will limit myself to 2/day and I'll drink plenty of water instead!

In one week, I'll reevaluate:(

Silver, you in????

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It's much much better to change your thinking than to change your drinking. (Ha! I rhymed.) :p

So instead of saying only 2 a day, how about "The next time I get something to drink, it will be water or iced tea."

Make that decision several times in a row, or make it every other time you get a drink. Changes made in increments are easier to chew. I find if I give myself "unlimited" of something instead of limiting the thing I want to avoid, I have less emotional baggage attached to giving up the thing. Plus the laws of physics are working in your favor--water and Diet Coke can't occupy the same space at the same time. If you fill up that space with water, there is no room for the Diet Coke.

Both ways of thinking about it can result in the same outcome, of course, but flipping it around to "unlimited x" from "limited y" is much more comforting. :D

(If you're concerned about the caffeine--I don't remember any adverse affects of limiting caffeine, and it's not dangerous to go cold-turkey off caffeine. You're a grown man, you can take it. Just try to do it when you're not at work so you can suffer through any symptoms in relative comfort.)

Good luck!
Karen

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(If you're concerned about the caffeine--I don't remember any adverse affects of limiting caffeine, and it's not dangerous to go cold-turkey off caffeine. You're a grown man, you can take it. Just try to do it when you're not at work so you can suffer through any symptoms in relative comfort.)

Good luck!
Karen

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Oh, there are adverse effects...they're not dangerous, but they're deadly nonetheless.

Day 1: One for breakfast, one for lunch - no migraine and I'll probably sleep great tonight! I've filled the fridge with bottled water for tomorrow, but I'll still probably have two more DC's...I have a lot of work to do and can't get the killer headache!

Water is your friend..;) Drink at least 2L a day.

Why not try cold Oolong tea? mmmmm :D There's no sugar in it at all!!!

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Day 1: One for breakfast, one for lunch - no migraine and I'll probably sleep great tonight!

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Congratulations... just don't get discouraged if you didn't "sleep great." Insomnia is one of the major symptoms of caffeine withdrawal.

Interestingly, I went through killer caffeine withdrawal several times when I was young (off a 2-3 cup a day habit, it doesn't have to be a lot), but later on (and pre-menopause) I've quit coffee with no symptoms at all. I don't even touch the stuff now, because I've seen how addiction creeps back up on me.

I do drink green tea and the occasional decaf, so I'm not caffeine-free, but much less than coffee or pop. I didn't notice any of the touted benefits of quitting coffee (less inflammation, weight loss), but I do sleep much better and my body is noticeably cleaner.

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Oh, there are adverse effects...they're not dangerous, but they're deadly nonetheless.

Day 1: One for breakfast, one for lunch - no migraine and I'll probably sleep great tonight! I've filled the fridge with bottled water for tomorrow, but I'll still probably have two more DC's...I have a lot of work to do and can't get the killer headache!

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One day of a series of better decisions down, hundreds more to go. :)

Good on ya!
Karen

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I didn't notice any of the touted benefits of quitting coffee (less inflammation, weight loss), but I do sleep much better and my body is noticeably cleaner.

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Why, were you spilling coffee on yourself a lot? ;):D

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Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

Why, were you spilling coffee on yourself a lot? ;):D

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LOL :D

No, really, less B.O., much less tongue coating, general feeling of being less toxic. No other changes in my diet or health practices, just giving up coffee.

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

You have to have some fat in your diet. The body won't without it, particularly the brain.

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Cripes, I should be Einstein by now..............:rolleyes::eek::o

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Originally Posted by OakLeaf

Insomnia is one of the major symptoms of caffeine withdrawal.

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Insomnia with a vengenence last night! Fully awake at 3AM. Went to health club for 90 minutes...caught up on work...Silver slept until 10:30 (despite all her caffeine) - just not fair:eek:;)

I want my vice back:rolleyes:;)

I used to go to an "Adventure Spa" that was vegetarian and caffeine free. They'd recommend you detox for a week before arriving, to avoid the withdrawals. I didn't one year, and was worried my trip would be horrible. The first day we hiked up to Kokanee Glacier - by the time I got up there, I had sweated out whatever caffeine toxins I had. No headache at all! Keep up the exercise Mr Silver!