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I know that with time and consistenty miles every rider becomes more comfortable in the saddle (assuming their saddle is a good fit for their body), but how does this happen? I asked DH and he wasn't really sure how/why this happens. Is it simply a matter of nerves giving up complaining? Or do we develop calluses or bursas or something?
Don't know the answer to this one but it does happen. As I have gotten comfortable riding 70+ miles on the bike for days in a row, I have noticed something odd. I can no longer sit comfortably in a movie theater or car for extended time. I think in my case it is due to the loss of padding on my backside.
Ooh, I hope I can lose some padding on my own backside...and frontside, and sideside! :D
For us, we had to just keep riding through the discomfort. There is a distinction between discomfort and pain. During the end of a century ride the snack stops are welcomed because we need to give the butt a rest by that time.
If your weight is properly born by mostly your two sitbones, then they will adjust to the additional pressure after a couple weeks of steady riding. Sitbone soreness is expected at first, just like when you ride a horse for the first few times.
If, however, if the pain or numbness comes from your soft tissues or your 'girl parts', then those parts will NOT adjust well and riding through the pain can damage your nerves over time. If pain/burning etc continues in your soft parts or in the front area, then you need to change something.
DH could never understand why I loathed my clunky Schwinn mtn. bike, aside from the fact that it weighted a ton and was slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
I kept telling him that no matter the seat/seat position my girl bits went numb and were in serious pain within a half mile. He thought I was pulling his leg.
Yesterday we did 30 miles on my new road bike (with new wider, firmer saddle than what came on the bike) and I had little more than mild discomfort. We probably need to tip my saddle back just a hair, since I had some issues with sliding forward, but other than that my butt was pretty happy and doesn't hurt today.
It's still a mystery how cyclists' butts adapt to riding. It's not like it's muscles that are being strengthened. The mechanism behind adapting to a bike saddle simply with riding over time still seems perplexing.
DH's theory is that as a cyclist gets stronger they put more of their weight on their legs and less on their rear-end...is that a logical theory?
I think the biggest issue with my mountain bike was that it was poorly fit (a teenage kid sold us the bike...reputable shop, but we should have had the kid's dad do the fitting). I should have had a size smaller. No saddle would help with that.
Well, my butt gets a lot more sore on recreational family rides where we're moseying around looking at the scenery than on training rides where I use my legs a lot. That's mostly because my bikes are set up for training rides with a fairly bent-over position, but I can tell a difference between slow "easy" training rides and fast in-and-out of the saddle rides.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
I rode six months trying to get used to a saddle that didn't fit me. Your body does not adapt to a saddle that doesn't fit, no matter how hard you try. It is worth the money to invest in a saddle that your sit bones sit on. Now I can ride 100 miles on my saddle. When I swapped bikes I kept the saddle. It is nothing special as far as saddles go - it's a stock saddle from a Specialized Dolce. But it fits me perfectly.
If you are getting sores or blisters, I would recommend shopping for a new saddle.
I knew right away that the stock saddle on my Cdale Synapse (I think it's called Raven?) was too narrow. From measuring that saddle it appears to be 120-130cm at its widest, squishy, and not flat in the back. I think my sit bones are closer to 130-140. I purchased a Selle Italia Lady Gel Flow, which is wider, flatter, and firmer. Felt like a dream compared to the stock saddle...which I am suspecting is a men's/unisex seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by indigoiis
I kinda thought you were referring to the nice rounded non-saggy biker butts. How long till you develop that :)
Melissa
In my case it will probably be a long while. I have been running for 4 years and still don't have a runner's physique. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by snowroo
yeah, I want the small round tight bike butt! even running 25-35 miles a week I never got that.
I'm waiting to see how I adjust to my new saddle. So far no pain, just some initial discomfort when I first mount, but after a minute or two it's gone. I haven't ridden a long one yet, I'm curious how the butt holds up at 15-20 miles :)
Don't feel bad...I peaked at 55 miles/week prior to my most recent marathon and I am just as squishy as ever. I am sure a small round tight butt is under that fluff somewhere! If I reigned-in the appetite I'm sure I could find it. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by GrassyRidge
Yep, my saddle "issues" sound like yours. Just some tenderness around my sit bones when I first get on. Doesn't really bother me once I get going. I don't know if that's because the fun endorphins kick-in, or what.
It is totally like what someone said above - when you first get on the bike, tons of weight (well, maybe not "tons"!!) is on your sit bones. But then when you get going, you shift your weight forward a bit to get the weight of your hips over your pedals, then, as you really get going, you are just lightly perched on/over the saddle with most of your weight on (and through) your legs for maximal power on the downstroke.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
The only time that this isn't true (for me, anyway) is at the end of a long ride and/or when fatigue starts to set in. Then weight naturally shifts back to the sit bones and my bum starts hurting again - need to make a conscious effort sometimes not to let that happen :-)
my husband has one of those. It is mind blowing to see that cute derriere on the back side of a 58 year old man!!!!!
I'm terribly afraid of this! My saddle is not fitting me well at all, and I'm having numbness in my "girly-parts" that is actually affecting my sex life! I'm quite worried about permanent damage. I won't be able to get my new road bike until spring, and my saddle right now is the Terry Cite X. My sit bones sit well on it, but it crushes everything else in front. It's cut out for women, but that doesn't seem to make any difference at all...GH...Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
I have never had a problem with my seat. If you are, you should get a new saddle (and a bike fitting?) and not put up with pain. I find that the Specialized Dolce seat (which is not expensive) works great for me. Someone else on this forum mentioned the same thing a few days ago. I know everyone is different, but you might try that one.
Please know that this is not normal and not good. A little bit of discomfort after a long time in the saddle is expected, but you should definitely not have this level of pain. Please ask your LBS for help and maybe get a fitting or a different saddle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliegoddess
I personally cannot use any saddle with a cutout although there are plenty of riders on this forum that I'm sure will give a thumbs up to cutouts. I've personally found that a more "minimal" saddle (zero padding) works best for me although for the life of me I don't know why.
Have you read the threads on here about saddle fitting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliegoddess
I've never been to a LBS that was any use with saddles. I'm sure there are some out there - Denise comes to mind - but you may be on your own. Knowing how wide a saddle you need and whether or not you need a cut-out will narrow your search considerably. Then you should be able to figure fairly quickly whether you need a more "T-shaped" saddle (where the rear transitions sharply to the nose) or a more "pear-shaped" one (where there's more of a uniform curve).
You're right to be concerned about permanent nerve damage! Hope you find a better saddle soon.
I totally agree...now how do I find out how wide my sit bones are? and I'm wondering if I should just take my current bike to my LBS...would I be able to try out different saddles on it there? (shows how I don't know much about this stuff!) Ignorant me thought that if I got a woman's specific saddle that I'd be fine. Well, I'm not! All I know is that my "girly parts" used to be really sensitive, and now they are NOT so much. And I noticed that when I rode my stationary bike, I did NOT have the discomfort I have when I ride my bike. My stationary has a shorter reach, that's for sure. Maybe I should just ride it until spring, when I get my road bike!! ha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tctrek
Here's one thread to get you started. There are several. Search the forum for measuring sit bones, cut-out test, etc. if you want to read more.
Or, Specialized and Trek dealers have a pad they use for measuring.
Some LBSs, but not all, will let you try a saddle for a certain amount of time; it never hurts to ask. There are also some places where you can order saddles online with an option to return them.
I think that just sitting on a saddle on your bike at the LBS might eliminate some that definitely won't work for you, but IME I really need several rides, including some long ones, to know for sure if a saddle is going to work. Plus, any time I put on a new saddle, the rest of the fit changes and I need to make some tweaks before I can really form an opinion. Some people get lucky and find a saddle that works pretty quickly, for others it can be a long and expensive search. :( If you see a saddle you want to try, don't hesitate to post an ad in the For Sale/Wanted section, someone may have one that they didn't like.
Good luck!
Hi,
I found this website http://www.jimlangley.net/crank/bicycleseats.html that might be useful to a newbie that knows nothing about bike saddles (ie. me). It may not answer any questions regarding this post, but since it is about saddles I thought it applies.
I hope it helps someone.
A lot of us here like to ride on hard leather Brooks saddles.
You can try one out for several months and then return it (if you don't slather it with gunk or other changes) if you order it from Wallingford: http://www.wallbike.com/index.php
I have very wide apart sit bones and I ride their men's B68, thier widest saddle. A normal pelvis woman might want to try their slightly narrower model, the B17.
Keep in mind that sometimes a more padded saddle can actually be more painful to your soft tissues. It was certainly true for me, and for others like me.
Trying a brooks saddle is one option for you to test.
Still waiting for that butt, but hey, I have news. Apparently runners have flat butts or so my friend (who trains athletes) tells me. So maybe there's hope!
How many runners does she train? The vast majority of runners I know (myself included) do not have flat butts. In fact, our butts are part of why we run upright so well.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowroo
I wouldn't want a flat butt, anyhow. I like filling out the back of my jeans. :D
Wouldn't know. You know this is all in jest, right? (although I do kinda like speedskater bootie).
I have one of those bums! Its just hidden, inside my 'other' bum!!( I can feelit in there somewhere!)
I find it most amusing, perving( as we say in Oz - means, looking !) on guys riding. You check someone out who looks 25 from the back and from the front , its someone my dad's age:D gotta love it!