Bicyclist shoots driver!

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09-22-2007, 09:45 PM
BadgerGirl

Bicyclist shoots driver!

I found this story in the Milwaukee Journal:

SATURDAY, Sept. 22, 2007, 9:22 a.m.
By Mary Zahn

Cyclist shoots motorist after collision
A 28-year-old-man was shot in the right shoulder by a bicyclist, after his car nearly collided with the bicycle, police said Saturday.

According to police:

The man was driving east on W. Burnham St. and the bicyclist south on S. 11th St. about 10:45 p.m Friday when there was a near collision. The man stopped his car to check on the bicyclist who had fallen to the pavement. At that point, the bicyclist stood up and fired three shots at the driver of the car, hitting him once.

The driver then drove to the house of a friend, who took him to the hospital where he was treated and released. The bicyclist was being sought by police on Saturday. No further details were available.
09-22-2007, 10:02 PM
BikeDutchess

Wow, and I thought flipping off motorists was bad!
09-23-2007, 04:33 AM
Tri Girl

How strange! Somehow I doubt he was a "cyclist." I'm sure he was an ordinary thug riding a (probably stolen) bike. I don't know many cyclists who pack heat (although the thought HAS crossed my mind once or twice when I'm buzzed by a car :rolleyes: ).
09-23-2007, 05:21 AM
Chile Pepper

Yeah--how heavy is a gun? We shave grams off our bikes, only to add on some heavy metal?
09-23-2007, 07:04 AM
Flybye

Don't be so sure about him just being a thug. On cyclingforums, there is a whole thread with hundreds of replies about who does and doesn't carry firearms while they ride....
ah, the fresh air, the sunshine, the smell of gunpowder.....
I believe the thread is "how many of you carry firearms while you ride?"
How fitting a name for such a thread.
09-23-2007, 07:13 AM
East Hill

There are a LOT of people who carry firearms whilst cycling. It does appear to be something that mainly men do, but I am certain that at least one or two women on this very forum carry arms (not me, though) when riding a bike. Considering that the response "Carry a gun" is always one of the first when someone asks "How do I feel safer when riding through X neighbourhood?", it's NOT just thug behaviour.

East Hill
09-23-2007, 07:21 AM
Mr. Bloom

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Hill

There are a LOT of people who carry firearms whilst cycling.

I don't get that...let's shave grams off our bike, but put a 3 pound gun in our pocket?
09-23-2007, 08:18 AM
silver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

I don't get that...let's shave grams off our bike, but put a 3 pound gun in our pocket?

Do they make carbon fiber guns? in silver? ;)
09-23-2007, 09:42 AM
KnottedYet

I dunno that I'd want to be riding my bike anytime near midnight, anyway. Even with all my blinkies and reflectors and lights.

Taking a gun with me wouldn't make me feel any better about it. I'd be more worried about just being seen that late at night than I would about needing to shoot someone.

3 lb gun vs. 3 lbs of good lights..... hmmmmm.
09-23-2007, 11:59 AM
bmccasland

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chile Pepper

Yeah--how heavy is a gun? We shave grams off our bikes, only to add on some heavy metal?

Ever handle a Glok? (spelling?) The bullets are what actually weighs something. I wouldn't want my 38 special bouncing around in my back pocket -that would leave a bruise. Avoidance works for me or putting pedal to the metal - and skidaddle out of there.

I'm all for pounding fists into the hood of the offending car, shooting is too extreme. When I was taught to shoot, I was told that you have decided that your life is in serious danger, and the other guy's life is forefit. But then a whole bunch of folks aren't taught to shoot by responsible instructors.

I don't want to start something on gun ownership or shootings - that is a touchy subject. I ride the levee, next to some bad neighborhoods, and have seen some shady looking folks on bikes. I just try to get back to the office (and secure parking) before dark when I ride after work.
09-23-2007, 01:27 PM
Thorn

Living in said city, I can say that the neighborhood in question is...uh....tough. I'm not a gun advocate, but if I had to ride in that neighborhood at night...????

Many a year ago I did ride just outside that neighborhood at night. I worked second shift and commuted by bicycle. I had a strict route I would follow, sticking only to main roads....even got pulled over by a cop--he thought I'd stopped 1/2-way through an intersection (it had a large median island) because I'd seen his car (yeah, right--it is night time--all you see are headlights). When he found I was female and I explained that the middle of the intersection was the safest place to stop, he let me go (although he thought I was nuts--it was winter)

The cyclist could have been real, but in that neighborhood...the odds are not. Since the driver stopped, we could assume he was honest....now there are a few drivers in the area I *wish* would meet up with the gun packing cyclist....sigh....but things like this only make it harder for us cyclists....
09-23-2007, 01:46 PM
Aggie_Ama

One of the other managers at the nursery my DH works at is a former cyclist. His dad still rides and has a gun mounted to his handle bars!! :eek: He lives in west Texas and I believe it is for the wild hogs not motorists. Although this came up after my husband told him about me being hit with a can by a motorist, so who knows?
09-23-2007, 02:05 PM
East Hill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

I don't get that...let's shave grams off our bike, but put a 3 pound gun in our pocket?

I didn't say it made sense :p . I always thought the advice was fairly ridiculous, especially as it seems that the persons most likely to ask the question live in places where ownership of guns is tightly controlled, and ownership of handguns is completely banned (such as Canada).

East Hill
09-23-2007, 02:25 PM
Meg McKilty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

I don't get that...let's shave grams off our bike, but put a 3 pound gun in our pocket?

Hey man, not all guns weigh 3 lbs.

Personally, I'd just strap a sawed-off shot gun to my back. If you're gonna make it a go: go big.
09-24-2007, 11:02 AM
KSH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama

One of the other managers at the nursery my DH works at is a former cyclist. His dad still rides and has a gun mounted to his handle bars!! :eek: He lives in west Texas and I believe it is for the wild hogs not motorists. Although this came up after my husband told him about me being hit with a can by a motorist, so who knows?

That is too funny! But since we live in Texas... I totally believe it.

I think the cyclist should be happy the car stopped and checked on him. That rarely happens.

I say it's only OK to shoot if the car hits you and takes off. But shoot for the tire so you can stop them in get their insurance info to pay for the bike :p
09-24-2007, 01:26 PM
chickwhorips

I use to bike with a glock, but it wasn't for people protection, more for bear protection.

I figure 8 bullets for the bear, if that didn't stop him, then the last one for me, I was hoping not to have to use the last one. :rolleyes:

Considering I grew up in Wisconsin.... maybe that explains it all.
09-24-2007, 02:20 PM
ClockworkOrange

I guess I'll just stick with my hand grenade!

Joking apart I must confess to getting really annoyed with car drivers, have been known to kick doors.................not a very good example but I was bloody annoyed.

Clock
09-24-2007, 10:16 PM
El Hombre

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

I don't get that...let's shave grams off our bike, but put a 3 pound gun in our pocket?

I drilled mine out:D

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...70/drilled.jpg