Oh...no Aurora...:(
But hey...who'd argue with a Soma!!!?? It's a great looking bike!!!
I think Waterford makes a mixte too....I'll go look
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Oh...no Aurora...:(
But hey...who'd argue with a Soma!!!?? It's a great looking bike!!!
I think Waterford makes a mixte too....I'll go look
Waterford Diva:
http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/d...iva_photos.php
Nice bike, but not a mixte. (doesn't have 3 stays)
Phooey.
yeah I'm not sure if hte soma smoothie es would fit me or not. it looks pretty promising as a frame though. I wonder how they measure standover. I wonder how I grow more...
My frame came in on Friday but the bike shop was too busy yesterday so we'll go back this week. I have huge buyer's remorse but I'm going to give it a try.
Xeney, did you hear back from Soma? Did they say when the mixte would be out?
Please don't have remorse, that Smoothie frame is beautiful! It will be a gorgeous bike!
Can you have buyers remorse if it's not in your hands yet...or are you anticipating???
I haven't heard anything from Soma. The buyer's remorse is because I'm skeptical that it is going to fit me.
Well, I've seen my frame. Wow, is it gorgeous. The pictures do not do the paint justice. I also got to see the same one built up, only that one had the matching fork, and I had to go with a black fork. Pretty, pretty.
Unfortunately, after a week of trying to pin the bike shop guys down on building it up, I am concluding that they have no interest in building this bike for me. (It took three visits before anyone could actually find the frame after they called to tell me it was in.) I think I'm just going to bring home the frame and fork and have my husband build it up for me. The only drawback to that is that it is so much easier to tweak the fit in a bike shop where they can easily swap stems and seatposts, etc., but I can't get anyone to talk to me about components or anything, and I've been in there four times now. So if they don't want my money, we'll just build it at home and I will take advantage of all of my husband's extra Campy parts from his latest build. Free stuff is my favorite, anyway.
Hi Xeney,
have you tried the Bianchi Axis?
ooops, I just realized that you already bought a bike... I guess I am still sleepy and only read the first page of the thread!
;)
Good luck, hope you are having fun with your new purchase!
Xeney, how frustrating. If I were in your place, I would grab somebody with authority -- the owner or manager, and let them know that I was not pleased with the service I was getting. I do think it's possible to do this without being a jerk and without "burning your bridges." You dropped a chunk of change at their establishment with the understanding that you would have a bike in a reasonable amount of time, and they need to follow through.
Well, it's the shop owner I've been dealing with. I'm not sure what to do but I think I'm just going to bring the frame and fork home. My husband can do almost everything to build it up ... he'd rather not cut the steerer and he doesn't have the tools to install a headset, but he can do everything else. I'm bummed about the experience because I was hoping to get somebody to work with me on the fit, but I'm now 0 for 2 on local bike shops and I am starting to think that the LBS as font of all bike knowledge is a big myth.
I have already paid about a 25 percent premium over what I would have paid to just buy it directly from Soma. I think I'm done paying the bike shop premium when I'm getting nothing back in return.
An update: we went in to pick up the frame, and it's dented pretty badly. There are no paint chips and it really looks like the frame was dented before it was painted, which is really a bummer because otherwise it's gorgeous. The shop is going to try to get me a new one, and they are also trying to locate the components I want. Not sure if they will build it up or my husband will, but at least we've made some progress. At this point, though, I may just be getting my deposit back because they aren't sure their Soma source has another frame in my size.
xeney-
that sucks:( I hope everything works out - sounds like you weren't 100% sure on the bike, so maybe it's the the best. Maybe the mixte will fit you after all:)
CA
They are only making 60 of those mixtes so I am not counting on being able to get one.
Still waiting to hear about the frame. The shop called the supplier and as of Wednesday had not gotten a response. I put down a $200 deposit but I am ready to just walk away, I am so sick of this.
geez, what an absolute drag!!!
If you're only into this 200 dollars, why don't you just deal with Soma yourself? You might actually end up with a bike that way, you know?
I will definitely do that if I decide to try to get one of the mixtes. I was trying to give the LBS some business but it has been nothing but a pain in the butt ... I always feel guilty when we circumvent the LBS to buy direct, buy from eBay, etc., but I think I am officially over that guilt.
I would imagine that SOma would not be happy about this either....I'd contact them.
But first!!! Ask for your deposit back....you have every right to, given the way this is unfolding. You've shown good faith...what's their end???
Given the way the dent was painted over, I think the original quality control problem lies with Soma, unfortunately. In any event, I went by the bike shop yesterday and a replacement frame is on its way.
I really hope it fits ... I am having doubts once again, because this weekend we measured the effective top tube on my Puch mixte (which fits me beautifully) and it's about a centimeter longer than the ETT on my Bianchi (which is too reachy). I have a 10cm stem on the Puch, and a 5cm stem on the Bianchi! So the overall geometry of the bike matters a lot, and this is just a crap shoot at the moment. I don't think the seat tube angle is any different on the Soma than it is on the Bianchi, though, as I recall, so the smaller size may be fine. We'll see. If not, eBay here I come. (Unless someone here is on the fence about a 50 cm Smoothie ES! I will give you guys first crack if it does not fit.)
I got email from Soma, there is no waiting list on the Buena Vista mixtes.:(
Buy from their website or order through your LBS, first come/first served.
(maybe that will keep me from ordering one and building bike number FIVE, when really I should just be riding the bikes I have and leaving my wallet locked in a safe somewhere! :eek:)
i'd like to build one for my wife if you unload the frame but she might need a 48cm.
Knotted, I have five bikes that are actually rideable (a road bike, a trainer bike, a grocery-getter mixte, a go-fast single speed mixte, and a mountain bike), plus some old beaters and of course this new frame. So you are fine in my book.
I think I will try to order the mixte direct from Soma because the LBS route was ridiculous. In fact they told me not to bother trying to order through them, to take my chances with Soma. I am subscribed to the Soma blog so hopefully they'll post there when the Buena Vista is released. I probably won't be able to jump fast enough, but I really want that bike and I'm going to try.
Pretty good Lisa! It falls into the addition category. I know you just forgot the c, but it's good enough for me. I'm going back to craigslist again. It's just another addition, no bid deal, Lisa said so!:D
I teach math and I know that addition does not require intervention. Man, I can justify anything!
AND it took a month to determine that they don't have another 50cm in the blue, just the silver, so screw it. This bike is not meant to be. I canceled the sale.
I cannot believe that after all this I still don't have a bike.
Did they at least give you your deposit back?? That sucks:(
Too bad! Time to revisit the Jamis option? They are fantastic bikes (but not mixte to my knowledge).
I will probably apply the deposit to a set of wheels, or to having some work done on my single speed mixte.
Soma is sold out of the frame in that size/color, as well. If I hadn't had doubts I'd just go with the silver -- obviously color is the least important issue -- but at this point I don't want to wait another month to get a frame that isn't even the one I wanted.
The Aurora doesn't come in my size so I am not going that route. I'm back to square one and probably just dropping the issue for now. I kind of hate my road bike but I can pull the baby trailer with it. (I tried pulling it with my much more comfortable single speed, but the gearing is too high and I was worn out after a couple of miles.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/austro-daimler-w...QQcmdZViewItem
pretty RED mixte!!! 10 speeds....
I saw that but I am holding out for modern components.
Which I am getting! A big part of my buyer's remorse over the Soma was the fact that I was having second thoughts about the 50cm fitting me. My husband had the same second thoughts. Once we started thinking about a 52cm, he suggested a Soma Speedster ... same geometry, but the smallest size available is a 52cm. And it is lugged steel and it's RED.
He went to a different local bike shop just to see if they could get one (since they are sold out at Soma), and lo, they had a 52cm Speedster frame hanging up in the shop. He put down a deposit for me and I am getting a new bike! And a much prettier one, too.
Since this frame is a bit more expensive (but still really cheap in the grand scheme of things) and since we are now smack in the California budget crisis that means I am not getting paid again until August or September, probably, I am going to do a component swap from my Bianchi to this new bike, and if it fits and I like it, then I'll worry about outfitting it with exactly what I want.
I am really excited, because secretly? I wanted a sparkly red bike.
Hooooray!!!!
:D
Sounds like it was meant to be. :)
Oh, mama... look at that fork!!!!! <drool, drool>
http://somafab.com/speedsterwall1.jpg
I thought you'd approve!
It really is a gorgeous bike. And I think it is going to fit me fine now that we have spent more time pondering my fit on the two bikes that fit me best. The shallower seat tube angle should be good for me. I hope!
The Speedster is really pretty. (Knott, there's one built up at Counterbalance on the Burke, if you're feeling the pull to drool in person.)
I'm a little confused, though. The geometry chart shows a 535mm effective top tube on it, and that doesn't seem to solve your top tube length problems. Am I reading that right?
I really, really hope it works out for you. You've been way too frustrated for too long over all of this.
That top tube length is exactly the same as the effective top tube on my Bianchi, but I have to use a seatpost on the Bianchi with a 3.5 cm setback in order to get my knee in the right spot over the pedal. It wasn't until I got the setback seatpost that I had trouble with the reach. This bike has a shallower seat tube angle so I think I can avoid the setback seatpost, and thus it will really be an effective top tube of 535.
We figured this out when we measured the reach on my new single speed build. That bike fits me really well and is super comfortable, but my husband had been riding it around without a problem and decided to measure the reach because he couldn't believe it was fitting him. The effective top tube on it is also 535, and I also have a 10cm stem on it. So I can ride a longer top tube than I was thinking I could; I just can't do it if I have to also have the setback seatpost.
Someone -- TriskelionGirl, I think -- explained this to me a couple of years ago, but I am not so good with the visualization and it never made sense to me. Now I get it.
izzat Xeney's bike????? :D
i just made that bike pic the wallpaper for my computer screen.
Ooooh....
Would you believe that I just finally had a chance to see it in person today? It is beautiful, even prettier than the pictures. I finished paying for it and also paid for the new headset, which is on order and will be installed next week. After that we bring home the frame and J. will start building it up.
Hooray!