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Thanks Wahine and you have NO idea how amazing it is. Most people cannot believe I'm even willing to go in the water. I've always been known as the girl you do NOT push off the air mattress or she cries.... I am feeling really good about my swimming although I know I have lots to learn and a long way to go. I am actually starting to enjoy it too. :)
What do you count as a stroke, every arm or every one side?
I was counting every stroke, left or right.
I haven't paid attention recently, but last I did, counting every arm stroke I do about the same as you.
In a 25m Pool I can do between 20 and 15 strokes depending on speed. 1:45 on 100, or 45sec on 50 is my sprint speed (I've been at it for a year).
So KG, you are progressing really fast. In addition to being perfectionist on those isolation exercises, just concentrate on the glide phase - after your hand has entered the water, and the push - before it exits.
All right - that's great! Now I have a goal to reach. It makes it easier for me if I know what I am aiming for. I'll see if I can cut back a couple strokes just by gliding longer. I do tend to rush (everything...) :rolleyes: :D
I went swimming today and tried to slow down my stroke. It was fairly easy to get down to 20 strokes per 25m and still keep a 30 second pace, which surprised me. I guess I thought I'd slow down if I didn't stroke as often. So today I did...
250m kicking with board
250m fins and stroke practice.
650m freestyle
40 minutes.
Lesson learned - make sure your hair is dry before you go outside when it's -12....
I think I'll try out for the Masters Swim club on Wednesday. Ooooohhh butterflies in my tummy....
We did the 1 hour postal swim at masters today.
300 w-up then swim as far as you can for 1 hour. That worked out to 3375m for me. then 125 cool down. Wow, I'm tired. Wonder why.
So Kimmy, how'd you do?
Wow...................:o
yes wow....
Ok..not as magnificent as Wahine's effort but I swam with our group this morning.
I'm very happy as i was able to move faster! YAy!!!!!!! Using the pull bouy today was really easy.
Hmmm..swimming's just too much fun :D
I tried some speedwork drills this morning, two sets of 300m slow/normal/fast. First, I discovered that I really only have two speeds since what I perceive as slow was basically no slower than my regular speed (about 2 seconds/100m different). Second, I discovered that my fast is decently fast (15 seconds/100m faster) but that I'm at my current physical limit. I definitely need to do more of these. I'd love to swim at this fast speed for my pool swim triathlon but right now it takes too much out of me and I'd be toast for the rest of the events.
Wahine, I did 3050, which I'm pleased as pie with! Considering my ankle really didn't like kicking, I did the whole thing kicking with one leg or barely at all.
K.
Nice work Kimmy!! You did great. Maybe you should swim 1 legged all the time.:p
To get back into swimming I've gotten some plans off this website: http://www.swimplan.com/
The couple drills I've done gives me a good work out. Has anyone ever used this website and how often should I do drills? I've been trying to swim 2-3 times a week.
Yay, I swam 200m without stopping today! (My goal had been 150.) I felt like I could have swum further but I was getting sloppy so I stopped and took a rest break. I don't feel like I can go further than 50m in the first 20 minutes but I seem to finally get into a 'zone' after I warm up a bit and I can swim further before I start gasping for air.
1250m in 45 minutes (kicking drills, stroke focus with fins, and freestyle).
I can do about 20 strokes per 25m fairly consistently now and I did 100m in 2:30 today. I'm not trying to go fast, just steady and 'correct".
KG - it is so great to see your posts and see what fantastic progress you're making. I can't believe you're swimming 1250 in 45 min already!!
I had to pipe in. I swam for the first time since my last race in September. It's a good thing I swam for so many years because it didn't kill me nearly as much as I'd feared it would. I'm only about 10 seconds per 100 off my normal pace. But.... it was sooooo hard and my upper body is already feeling it. :rolleyes: Probably couldn't keep that up for more than 500 without almost drowning. Guess I shouldn't go 4 months in between swims. :p
IM training begins in a couple months, so it was nice to get back in the water.
Congrats on all the milestones, ladies. It's great to see you all doing so well in the water. I've been reading for a while and was doing my swim training vicariously through you.
Thanks Wahine - you give me hope! I really have to get down to the masters program this week so I can get some direction and correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahine
Also, with regards to stroke count. this is a bit mean now but I counted a girl at the pool who was sort of "being nice with the water" i.e. just stroking it instead of really catching and pulling thru -
her stroke count on 50m was higher than 80 :eek:
So you must be doing just fine.
how about a video for us to enjoy? :D
I crossed the 4000m line tonight. Woot!
:D:D:D:D:D
Good job Alpine, that's a big milestone.
I hated our coach for making us do another 600... then it was only 100 to go :-) & felt a bit woozy afterwards.
I need a kick in the butt to give me courage to go the masters program tonight. I am not too tired. I really need to go. But I'm as nervous as a kid entering kindergarten. :o :o
That aside, I was looking at the swimplan website CWR mentioned and here is a sample of one based on my particular abilities. What do you think?
I don't actually understand it all at this point, and I don't know how to remember it all once you're in the water since you can't exactly take it with you....
Duration 30-45 mins
Distance 900yd
Pool length 25yd
Issued Feb 3 2008
Warm up
• 2 x 50yd Any Stroke (even pace), rest 0:15 / 50yd
Swim your choice of stroke at a steady pace.
Build up (repeat 3 times)
• 1 x 50yd Freestyle Kick with fins (25yd Easy, 25yd Effort), rest 0:15 / 50yd Freestyle kicking with fins, alternating every 25yd between easy and fast kicks. Use the easy kicks for recovery.
• 1 x 50yd Freestyle Breathe and Kick with fins, rest 0:15 / 50yd Freestyle drill to isolate the breathing action and practice control of the body and head position. One arm holding the back of the kickboard, the other arm loosely at your side. Keep your ear on your shoulder while kicking. Roll your body to breathe on the side not holding the kickboard.
Core (repeat 2 times)
• 2 x 100yd Freestyle (25yd Easy, 25yd Effort), rest 0:30 / 100yd Freestyle swim at a slow, relaxed pace for 25yd, followed by Freestyle at a fast pace for 25yd. Recover during the easy part of the swim.
• Rest 0:60 seconds
Warm down
• 1 x 100yd Freestyle Push & Glide, rest 0:20 / 100yd
Freestyle swim, pausing at the end of every stroke with arms out-stretched, one held out front, the other held loosely against the body.
Alpinerabbit - was the video comment directed at me? Funny you should ask because I really want DH to come and videotape me so I can see what I look like. If I do, I'll youtube it for ya... sorry you asked? :D:D
4000m in 1hr? :eek::cool: That's a mighty big effort dear! I hope you treated yourself to something yummy after!
52 minutes
2952.76 yards
01m 46s /100 yards
Got to the pool at 5:45 AM. No one was swimming and only 1 of the coaches was there with 2 other guys who swim at 6.
Apparently they shut down the Lifetime Fitness Pool when it's lightening outside.
Luckily the bad weather was done and the pool opened up at 6:00 AM. The coach who gives the workouts wasn't there though.
No problem for me! I just pulled one of my many workouts from my bag, and did that.
Actually, it was really nice. I finally got a longer set in. I also got to do some distance.
200-Warmup
600- 200 easy/200 fast/200 moderate
200- Easy
200- Fast
200- Easy
100- IM
100- IM
200- Fast
200- Easy
600- Paced it from slow to fast at the end.
100- cool down.
Sounds hard to me! I MIGHT be able to do it if I didn't stop swimming and I swam faster than usual. Still so... not sure I could that.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycanuck
Someone is a FISH!!!!
KSH and CC - Alpine didn't specify how long it took her to swim 4000 m. Kimmy and I were talking about the postal 1 hour swim earlier and that may have cuased some confusion. But really, for all I know she could have done it in an hour, I just don't think she specified.
Alpine - care to comment? Inquiring minds want to know.
AH... yea, we might have gotten confused on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahine
I know I swam 3,000 yards in 52 minutes myself today... that is with a 1:45, 100. To make 4,000 yards in one hour... I can't even think how fast someone would have to swim.
Then again, a lot of people make their IM swim (4200 yards) in around 1 hour.
OH. Good evening ladies. I was caught in the time zone dimensional shift that is called a "working day in Europe".
Our practice is one hour and 50 minutes. Sound more realistic?
Our coach, however does 3.8K in 50 minutes, Ironman relay team mode. He's an ex-competitive swimmer. So it's feasible. First out of water at Ironman is what, 40 something minutes....
I sounds more realistic in the sense of how much time it took to swim 4000m, but, for me, the idea of swimming for 1 hour and 50 minutes is not realistic at all! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinerabbit
:D weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...I love swimming in the rain wwwwwwwwwwweeeee
Great session this morning
I hate my new fins :mad: they're bothering my right knee..ARGHGHGHG..
Swimming in da rain, just swimmin in da rain...
I know I'm not regular in here because I really don't deserve to be but I swam 1650 yards today :D Was going to do 1600 but I was using the alphabet to count laps and I wanted to end on "g" instead of "f" so there you have it. I tried to swim easy and just work on form though the last lap I tried to go fast. I ended up being tired after that one!
It took me about 45 minutes or so which is slow, granted. All I'm worried about right now is building up endurance. I feel good about it!
If you swim you are welcome here and deserve to be here! Nice job today!Quote:
Originally Posted by teigyr
Well, after all the hemming and hawing and even trying it out, I decided not to join the Masters after all. The M,W 8:30-9:30pm time is tough for me and I just wasn't sure it would work out. I am pretty disciplined so I decided to follow the plans from the Swimplan website for awhile an then take another lesson or two to touch base with a coach in a month. This way, I can go at my own speed, work on whatever I want to. Although I enjoyed the masters night and can definitely see the benefits, I also realized that they are far too busy to give me much, if any, one on one coaching. Not once did anyone correct my stroke, which is the main reason I want to go. If no one is going to correct me, I may as well swim on my own.
So today, I basically followed this plan. The ~ are extras I did on my own.
45-50 minutes, 1300m
Warm up
~ 4 X 25m kickboard
• 4 x 25m Any Stroke (even pace), rest 0:10 / 25m
Build up (repeat 4 times)
• 1 x 25m Single Arm (arm out front) 6 x left, 6 x right, 6 x full stroke, rest 0:10 / 25m
• 1 x 25m Freestyle Catch Up, rest 0:10 / 25m
Core
• 4 x 50m Freestyle Swim, leave on 01:45 / 50m
• 4 x 50m Freestyle Swim, leave on 01:40 / 50m
• 4 x 50m Freestyle Swim, leave on 01:35 / 50m
Warm down
• 2 x 50m Freestyle Push & Glide, rest 0:15 / 50m
Then because I still had time:
~ 2 x 25m breast stroke (maybe 4, can't remember)
~ 2 X 25m backstroke
~ 4 X 25m freestyle
This morning the pool was fairly quiet. I was sharing the wide end lane for a while and then had it all to myself. I swam 2000m and then worked on step 1 (and a tiny bit of step 2) of learning a fast open turn.
KG your doing an excellent job in the pool! GO YOU!
I decided to swim on me own this morning as i know i might not have tons of time this weekend. I was only in the pool for 1hr but did:
600m warm up
300 Finz
300 pull buoy
100 x3 easy, medium, fast
100 kick
I'll attempt to do a swim on sunday where i can work on just kicking and backstroke then go off and do some deep water running.
c
3000 yds in 52 minutes--not bad at all! Certainly faster than I swim (my sort of "natural" pace is 500 yards in 10 minutes for freestyle, so that would bring me to an hour for that workout assuming I didn't switch up the strokes at all). I haven't done any swimming in a while so I'm sure I'd be slow now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSH
I like the length swim at noon on Saturdays. There were only 3 of us in the double 'medium' lane. It was nice. I swam for 55 minutes and did another swimplan workout. 1400 metres this time. I felt great.
Warm up
• 8 x 25m Any Stroke (even pace), rest 0:10 / 25m
Build up (repeat 4 times)
• 1 x 25m Single Arm with kickboard 6 x left, 6 x right, rest 0:10 / 25m
• 1 x 25m Freestyle Kick with kickboard, rest 0:10 / 25m
Core
• 4 x 100m Freestyle Swim, rest 0:30 / 100m
• 16 x 25m Freestyle DPS, rest 0:10 / 25m
Warm down
• 1 x 100m Freestyle Easy, rest 0:20 / 100m
• 1 x 100m Easy Any Stroke, rest 0:20 / 100m