I probably also need to accept that tipping over wouldn't be the WORST thing to ever happen!
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I probably also need to accept that tipping over wouldn't be the WORST thing to ever happen!
There's one hill on one of the rides I do that I have never managed - it's just too steep at the very very top. But if this is a hill you are doing often, just try to get 10 feet further each time you do the hill. Before you know it you will be all the way up there.
I don't recommend tipping over. It's amazing how hard pavement is when you land on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fallstoclimb
Also -- the steep section comes after ~1 mile gradual climb, and then enough yards of a steeper climb that there's no momentum left to help me out :) Doesn't it seem like that is always the case!
Out of curiosity, are you using clipless pedals? I know that when I'm struggling up a steep climb, being attached to my pedals really helps me turn the pedals over.
I am using clipless. I think that both helps (with turning) and hurts (mentally I feel like I can't catch myself if the bike starts tipping -- although realistically I know I can tear out of those pedals pretty quickly when I need to).
I think my response was a little flip and unclear at the beginning of this thread.
I just want to emphasize that having low gears helps tremendously and at my age I don't really care what people think of that. I always use the lowest gear I can, to feel comfortable. For example, on the ride I was leading Saturday, I had the chance to observe, as the sweep, what others do. What I saw was a lot of standing, painful looking mashing, zig zagging, sitting down in defeat and barely making it up the hill, which was not even that bad, in my opinion. I, on the other hand, had my triple in the granny and in the seond lowest gear on the back. I passed both of these riders with ease, and I was going at a nice pace for a hill. These riders were young and fit, so I ascribe it to technique. From what I see, people think it means thy're a wimp if they shift down. Sometimes I hear, "but I hate to shift."
As SheFly stated, I have seen 2.5 or 3.0 (in the Berkshires and in Spain) and I never felt like I was going to tip over. Just felt like the damn hill was never going to end.
I have asthma and riding up steep hills can be a trigger for me. I've found it best to slow my cadence way down while riding in the lowest gear on my bike. I routinely slow to ~3 mph when climbing steep hills. Haven't fallen yet. Just keep pedaling.
I recently did a big club ride, a metric century, that had a steep hill near the end. I rode the entire route with a 70-year-old who rides almost every day including long rides on weekends (Saturday AND Sunday). He rides a touring bike, definitely not what most would consider ideal for climbing. He and I slowly pedaled up the hill. It wasn't easy but neither of us was ever in doubt that we would make it. At the end of the ride we learned that some of the A-level riders had walked up that hill. Tortoises > hares.
Out of curiosity why the loose grip on handlebars while seated up the hills? I have a death grip on my handlebars when I'm going up hills :D
It helps (some) to stay loose and relaxed when they're climbing, especially during a long and/or steep climb when the best way up is to remain patient. A death grip often means your that whole upper body is tense.Quote:
Originally Posted by mariacycle
Ah that makes sense, thanks! I once read someone describing going up hills by "pulling" the handlebars towards herself (I think it was on TE?) and have found that to work for me psychologically, but not on massive hills. I think your reasoning perfectly explains why.
If you have a death grip on the bars, you are also likely pulling, which is using more energy. Keeping a loose touch allows you to focus your energy in your legs. Like I said, I literally put my hands on the tops of the bars, simply resting there. This also puts you in a more upright position, opening up your lungs.
SheFly
Update on this:
We tried to put a 28 on my bike, only to find out my derailleur couldn't handle it. Settled for a 26 instead. I headed out yesterday to try the hill again, although I wasn't super confident because it was about the hottest day of the year. Started up it fine in my easiest gear, until I hit the part where I always have trouble. I was doing a sharp little zig zag with every pedal stroke, and then I briefly stood. Now I'm not sure if this hpapened when I was sitting or standing -- DH says I must've been standing -- but the front wheel started leaving the ground, which is when I freaked out and unclipped.
Gahhh this GD hill. The section I can't handle is only like, 20 feet long, and its not like this hill is even part of my daily route but its so close to my house and it is killing me! Anyway, does the fact that my tire was hopping off the ground change anything technique-wise that might help me?
Like SheFly mentioned earlier, sounds like you are pulling up on you handlebars, thus lifting you front tire off the ground. What if you find a not quite as steep of a hill and practice - shifting and standing. Typically when you stand to climb you will want to be in a harder gear than if you are sitting. If you have ever watched a video of something like the Tour De France you will see the riders change gears prior to standing up. Also as they stand you will see them position their weight more to the front of the bike. Do an experiment and as you are beginning to climbing and wanting to shift gears try standing up there, just to get used to the motion of standing without being on the steep part of the hill. You will get this hill conquered so don't give up!
I cannot see you tipping backwards at 15% unless you have shifted your weight by standing and shifting back. I know it is not a ton of help to keep hearing the same thing LOL,but stay seated, keep that relaxed feel on your handbars (use the flat part) do not pull on the bars but focus on using your power to turn the pedals. You are coordinated enough to get out unclipped, do you think you really could have managed that on one wheel? Try less steep longer inclines to get some practice if your basic problem is that you need more hill riding. I think you must be panicking and letting your head take over the ride. Can you find longer inclines for hill work? 15% is less daunting when it is just part of a long climb, when it is without build up I am sure it can appear scarier.