Amici Veloci – REORDER TIME

[SadieKate]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/SadieKate/Amici%20Veloci%20jersey/DSCF0001_torso.jpg

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/SadieKate/Amici%20Veloci%20jersey/

After much procrastination, I’ve finally got the new order process ready and Snap has graciously agreed to collect the orders with payment via PayPal. If we can get the orders collected by June 14, the orders will be shipped the week of August 7th. They’ll go off to the equally gracious yellow (to avoid CA taxes) who will ship the individual jerseys.

For those of you unfamiliar with the Amici Veloci story, here is the short version. Back in August 2004 I was diagnosed with MS and was open about it on this forum. I decided I wanted to ride in the Top Hat Classic 2005 (a local MS ride) and I suddenly received an incredible email from jobob, snap, aka_kim, veronica and Adventure_Girl. They wanted to be on a team with me, and I'd never met them! Wow, was I an emotional mess. Our team grew to 15 strong and we were the largest non-corporate fundraising team (thanks to many of you). Out of that we decided that we needed a jersey but that also we would try to ride one charity ride a year. We want anyone and everyone who wants a jersey to have to opportunity to buy one and encourage all to wear it in a charity event.

The details:
DEADLINE: JUNE 14
Photos: go to the photobucket link above
Items available: See order form which is for information purposes only. You will need to give snap all the details on the PayPal transaction.
**We need 25 minimum short sleeve/sleeveless items for the min order.
**25 min also applies to arm warmers and or long sleeve jerseys.
Shipping: included in cost
Payment: PayPal only
Fit: if you have a local shop that carries Voler team kit, ask to try it on. Feel free to ask anyone who already has an AV or Cinderella jersey for fit advice and we’ll try to help. That photo is of me in a size med women's club cut short sleeve jersey (I'm 5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs and have generous boobage).

If you know anyone that isn’t on this forum that might like a jersey, please feel free to direct them to www.amiciveloci.org. I’ll post this same info there. I’m sure there are several folks on bikejournal that would be interested, but I don’t think I’m allowed to post anything about selling jerseys there. I’ll ask slantz, but send your buddies emails!

May we all be Amici Veloci, fast friends.

Special thanks to spazz for her design help. I finally get to meet her Saturday!

[CorsairMac]

so...........I've got the short sleeved version and the arm warmers........

SK: is that 25 a combined number?? ie: 25 arm warmers and/or ls jerseys?? 25 ss and/or sleeveless jerseys??

[SadieKate]

25 combined total for shortsleeve, sleeveless and windvest

A separate combined 25 min total for arm warmers and longsleeve jerseys.

[CorsairMac]

and................what would be the odds of us getting LS jerseys?? lol


what incentive do I need to offer to Bubba et al to get a 25 order total on LS jerseys/arm warmers?? *wink wink nod nod*

[maillotpois]

Arm warmers would be nice. But I have red ones that wouldn't clash too badly.

DH "broke" my Death Ride vest at Davis. (Zipper stuck and he broke it trying to fix.) I think it is fixable, but I still think I deserve an AV vest and jersey for my trouble.)

[TsPoet]

I'm sure I'm being a goof - but where's this informational order form?

TS

[SadieKate]

:p Go out and do a sales campaign. Get everybody you know to order one. Get everyone riding VCAN to order one. Get TsPoet's mom and aka_Kim's mom to order one. Get . . . oh you get the gist.

I'm trying to decide between a longsleeve jacket and a jersey -- or both. It's only money. Right?

BTW, you full-figured gals. I took the elastic out of my "unisex" vest and hemmed it up. Fits really nicely now.

[SadieKate]

Use the photobucket link. It is the first image.

[CorsairMac]

:p Go out and do a sales campaign. Get everybody you know to order one. Get everyone riding VCAN to order one. Get TsPoet's mom and aka_Kim's mom to order one. Get . . . oh you get the gist.

I'm trying to decide between a longsleeve jacket and a jersey -- or both. It's only money. Right?

BTW, you full-figured gals. I took the elastic out of my "unisex" vest and hemmed it up. Fits really nicely now.


Both of course! Heck since I'm going to use plastic money - I'm planning on ordereing a sleeveless And a LS...that way I can show off my AV jersey all year long!! :D

[SadieKate]

Arm warmers would be nice. But I have red ones that wouldn't clash too badly.The jersey is the standard Voler red so their basic arm warmers will match.

I have an alterations place in Folsom that does a pretty good job of hemming jerseys and moving zippers if you want me to take it to them, see what they can do.

[SadieKate]

:p Go out and do a sales campaign. Get everybody you know to order one. Get everyone riding VCAN to order one. Get TsPoet's mom and aka_Kim's mom to order one. Get . . . oh you get the gist.Corsair, I broke the ice for you on bikejournal. Go forth and proselytize. It's up to you, baby.

[TsPoet]

:p Go out and do a sales campaign. Get everybody you know to order one. Get everyone riding VCAN to order one. Get TsPoet's mom and aka_Kim's mom to order one. Get . . . oh you get the gist.
.

I think my mom is avoiding Cmac - she could never get used to the seat on her bike and always felt unstable and has gone recumbent trike! (like I told her in the first place). Anyway, think she's a little afraid of Cmac being dissapointed in her.
But, looks like she's putting in about 75 miles/week - I think everyone should be thrilled for her, regardless of what she's riding.
Maybe I'll buy her a jersey - she needs to get her first.

TS

[SadieKate]

300 miles a month and she's worried about sweet little 'ol CMac? Sheesh, can I give your mom my mom's phone number?

[Selkie]

I want to order some Amici Veloci stuff but I can't make the link to snapdragen work---help! Plus I hate paypal and would prefer to avoid giving them any credit card numbers. I guess there's no way you all would accept a check?

[SadieKate]

There is no live link to Snap. You can print out the order form to get all the details and then enter her email address in PayPal.

I'm sorry. We are just private individuals and have no way to protect against bounced checks. The bookkeeping and records are much more simple if we limit payment to PayPal. Poor Snap went through this before and checks caused her martini consumption to soar.

Do you have a friend who would be comfortable using PayPal? Maybe a cycling friend who would also like a jersey? :)

[snapdragen]

I want to order some Amici Veloci stuff but I can't make the link to snapdragen work---help! Plus I hate paypal and would prefer to avoid giving them any credit card numbers. I guess there's no way you all would accept a check?

Sorry - PayPal only this time. This is to avoid me going insane again with the order process.....

[Adventure Girl]

Do you have a friend who would be comfortable using PayPal? Maybe a cycling friend who would also like a jersey? :)Are you in sales? You should be!:cool:

[Adventure Girl]

Will you take a post dated 3-party check drawn on the National Bank of Nigeria?:eek:

[snapdragen]

Will you take a post dated 3-party check drawn on the National Bank of Nigeria?:eek:
Sure - send it to my representative - Mr. Bobo LePew c/o the Nigerian consulate in London.

[Adventure Girl]

Did anybody get the thermal vest last time? I got the "regular" wind vest and I like it. But I'm thinking I may "need" (most over-used verb in the English language) a thermal vest now.

[Trekhawk]

OK SadieKate for those of us that seem to have killed too many brain cells in our youth:eek: can you explain exactly what I need to do. I would love to have one of these Jerseys to take home to Aust. Help please.:o

PS What is PayPal?????

[SadieKate]

PayPal is an online system which allows you to send funds to anyone who has a PayPal account and email. You can link to a credit card or bank account (I'm doing all this from memory). It sprung to fame because it has become the payment system of choice for eBay and many internet retailers. Read more here.
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/about-outside


Look at the order form and determine which items you want
Sign up for PayPal
On PayPal, click on "send money" and enter snap's email address and all the details for the items you want
Enter the total money due


Did I get everything? Is that clear as mud?

[Trekhawk]

Thanks SK sounds pretty simple.....this means Ill probably screw it up but for a lovely jersey its worth the drama.:D

Thanks:)

[Trekhawk]

Yipee I ordered and it worked. Thanks SK.
Cant wait to get my jerseys. Jee shopping sure is easier when your husband is in Hawaii.:D :D

[Veronica]

I too am intrigued by the thermal vest. What exactly is it?

V.

[snapdragen]

The the winner of the "first order in " prize is Trekhawk! Congratulations! Please accept this hearty "atta girl" as your prize......:D

[Lise]

Which fit is looser, the club or the race? (I'm guessing club)

Which fit is better to cover (not emphasize) belly and hips, womens' club or mens'?

[Veronica]

I too am intrigued by the thermal vest. What exactly is it?

V.
From the Voler site

Fabrics
Isowind
Thermasensor Ultra
Specs
High collar
Dual directional zipper
3 rear pockets
Styles
Raglan sleeves
Set-in sleeves

Sounds like something I need.

V.

[winddance]

I'd totally love to order. I just can't quite figure out what size I would be. I'm right on the cusp between XS and SM...all of the jerseys I have that fit me are an XS.

So...do you find that these run true to size, or are they smaller or larger?

[DrBee]

I'm ordering a short sleeve jersey and the arm warmers. But - I'm waiting to hear the answers to the size questions.

[snapdragen]

Jersey Styles.

The men's club cut is more straight up and down, the women's has a bit of curve, and no elastic in the hem (men's has elastic) Race cut fits tighter than club.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/snapdragen/IMG_0228copy.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/snapdragen/IMG_0227copy.jpg

[Lise]

Thanks, that's very helpful. Now I want the jacket, time to cruise back over to that order form! :D

SK, thank you very much for posting the story. Maybe sometime you could post the long version for those of us who haven't heard it. L.

[withm]

WoW! What a great story. AND A GREAT LOOKING JERSEY! My compliments to the designer. As a new TE member, I feel a bit like an interloper, but I'm tempted to buy a jersey anyway. You need some over here on the other coast don't you?

Good job ladies!
Martha

[SadieKate]

Winddance, I'll bring my short sleeve club cut and sleeveless race cut with me on Saturday. They are both mediums, but you should be able to get some idea.

Do you have a shop nearby that Voler jerseys you can try?

Everyone who has sizing questions. Best if you tell us the brand, model and size jerseys fit you the best. Hopefully, someone who is similar in size can over some help. These jerseys are sized the same as the Cinderella jerseys also.

[SadieKate]

You need some over here on the other coast don't you?

Good job ladies!
Martha
We need 'em all over the world!!!

[tprevost]

SK,

I too would love to read the "long version" of the story. What a great group of women!!!!

Trac'

ps. Just sent my $$ to snap!!! YIPPEEE!!!

[Lise]

SK,

I too would love to read the "long version" of the story. What a great group of women!!!!

Trac'

ps. Just sent my $$ to snap!!! YIPPEEE!!!
Whad'ja get, Trac?

At this point I want a thermal jacket and a windstopper jacket and a long sleeve jersey and a short sleeve jersey....:D I'll pick one (or two?) when I've had a tich more sleep...:rolleyes: L.

[SadieKate]

I still think I deserve an AV vest and jersey for my trouble.)I think you need enough for the entire Team Pois . . . at least mamapois and petitepois.

[winddance]

Winddance, I'll bring my short sleeve club cut and sleeveless race cut with me on Saturday. They are both mediums, but you should be able to get some idea.

Do you have a shop nearby that Voler jerseys you can try?


I don't know...probably, but I doubt I'd find anything in a women's XS to try on. I usually get laughed at when I ask about stuff like that. :rolleyes: I'd love to take a look on Saturday!

I have the orange Sportful ss jersey that's on TE. The XS fits me and is about the same dimensions as the XS in this jersey, so the XS club fit is my current fit hypothesis due to the curvyness, although I'm concerned it'll be too short. A size S Hincapie that I have is very roomy. (I know. I have such problems...)

You can count on me for one jersey, a pair of armwarmers, and possibly a wind vest, though. I just have to figure out which jersey!

[mtkitchn]

I'd also like to hear the long version of the story. I didn't know about this!
I wear a lot of off brand junk I find on ebay, but I do have a Shebeest jersey in medium that fits pretty well (I like my stuff loose). I think I'll have to pick up a sleeveless....
And then I'll have to come to California and ride with the AV group....:D

[mtkitchn]

I put in my order for a short sleeve, but forgot to put that it was mtkitchn on the order....so Sue from Phoenix is mtkitchn....
if it matters!

[maillotpois]

I think you need enough for the entire Team Pois . . . at least mamapois and petitepois.

GOod point. She likes to match.

[cindysue]

sk - we'll have to get a group shot on Saturday with all of us in our jersey....

[tprevost]

Lise,

I got the sleeveless race jersey. My shoulders are so broad that sleeveless stuff usually works best!

I can't wait to get my new jersey!!!! (I know, september) Very very cool!

Trac'

[jobob]

I'll bring my collection of AV attire to the Diablo ride on Saturday to try on. That'll be a women's size Med short-sleeve (club cut), a women's size med sleeveless (race cut, since club cut isn't available in sleeveless, alas), size small armwarmers, and a size small (unisex) windvest.


I had purchased the size small (unisex) windvest in a fit of optimism back when I was about 10 pounds lighter than I am now :mad: . It was a bit snug on my hips even back then, but now that I've piled back on the pounds :mad: :mad: :mad: I've decided it's just too small for me now to even attempt to alter it.

I think it would fit someone with size 8 hips. Not "optimistic" (or delusional) size 8, a real size 8 :D I don't like my clothing too snug, so maybe someone who wears a size 10 would tolerate it, but I sure don't.

So, if anyone is interested, I'd be glad to sell my unisex small windvest, which has never been worn, and I'll order myself a medium. The windvest is absolutely stunning, by the way.

I'd just as soon sell it to someone at the Diablo ride this Saturday, or someone who is going to be at the Little Red Riding Hood ride, so I don't need to deal with postage (altho I could be talked into express-mailing it to someone so they get it prior to LRRH). So first dibs go to anyone at the Diablo ride or is doing LRRH. Please PM me. Cost is whatever the windvests are going for in the current order.

- Jo.

[GLC1968]

SK - What a cool story...and another vote for wanting to read the 'long version'!

Whomever designed this jersey did a bang up job! I also feel a bit like an interloper here as such a newbie to this forum, but I'm definitely planning on placing an order. If I get a wind vest, I could probably get away with wearing it over my MS team jersey for our ride here in September, right? That said...I really need more sleeveless jerseys. Hmmm....how to decide which items I want/need?! :D

[Fuji Girl]

If we order the wrong size, would it be possible to send it back and get another size? (I'd pay for the shipping, of course!)

[SadieKate]

Sorry, this is a custom order, one time shot. You really need to find a shop stocking Voler or someone who has one or use the sizing chart. Voler is used for a lot of event and race team jerseys.

Post your height, weight, bust size, anything that will help us help you. Someone may be very similar in build and can give you a recommendation. Again, what jerseys fit you well for comparison?

[SadieKate]

I have a gigantic box of sizing samples (including thermal stuff) coming tomorrow. I will have it with me Saturday to try after the ride, so everyone who can needs to be there!

I must ship back by June 12 but will do my best to have them available locally.

Other sizing ideas are to check with your local clubs, many of whom use Voler jerseys.

[slinkedog]

SK, what was the style name of the jersey again? The Cinderella jersey for this year is the SQ Pro and it runs very snug, especially if you're at all busty. Is the AV jersey the SQ Pro, as well?

[Adventure Girl]

Hey, SK... Wasn't there something about Voler jersey fit that had to do with the fabric they used? I tried your LRRH medium club jersey. It fits me differently than my AV medium club jersey. So if people try on Voler products in a store, they need to know size, cut and fabric. Don't they?Not trying to make things more complicated....

I'd also like to mention that the arm warmers run a little small. They are called "unisex" sizing. I would normally consider myself a unisex small. But I have medium arm warmers, and they are just about right. Unisex small arm warmers would have been too small for me.

[Bike Goddess]

Hey folks- I'm going to the Great Western Bike Rally in Paso Robles this weekend. I'll be wearing my AV jersey to as many rides as I can (there are lots!) I'll bet we get some takers!!!:D :D :D :D

AND, this will give other women an incentive to join the TE group. Double dipping here for a good cause!

Not sure what I will be ordering, but you can count on me for something as well. (Probably a long sleeve jersey and maybe a vest) :) :) :) :)

[SadieKate]

Hey, SK... Wasn't there something about Voler jersey fit that had to do with the fabric they used? I tried your LRRH medium club jersey. It fits me differently than my AV medium club jersey. So if people try on Voler products in a store, they need to know size, cut and fabric. Don't they?Not trying to make things more complicated....The LRRH jersey was a race with the elastic taken out. It is also made from AriesMicroPlus which stretch more than the SQPro which is used for the AV jersey.

This info is on our order form (after I had a long telephone call with Voler's president).

Thanks for the additional info on the armwarmers. Everything will help everybody.

[SadieKate]

Hey folks- I'm going to the Great Western Bike Rally in Paso Robles this weekend. I'll be wearing my AV jersey to as many rides as I can (there are lots!) I'll bet we get some takers!!!:D :D :D :D Nancy, print out the order form and take it with you. Hmm, better check that our web site is on it.

www.amiciveloci.org if it isn't.

Editinig this post because I edited the order form.

[Fuji Girl]

Sorry, this is a custom order, one time shot. You really need to find a shop stocking Voler or someone who has one or use the sizing chart. Voler is used for a lot of event and race team jerseys.

Post your height, weight, bust size, anything that will help us help you. Someone may be very similar in build and can give you a recommendation. Again, what jerseys fit you well for comparison?

Sorry, didn't realize. I'll look around for Voler, but the Cannondale large jerseys usually fit me well. Same with Sugoi. Pearl Izumi's are usually too short for my long-ish torso.

I'm about 5'7.5", 150lbs.

[GLC1968]

Does anyone know how a Voler jersey compare to Louis Garneau? Particularly for the sleeveless version? I have an LG race sleeveless in a S that fits well...

Thanks!

Edited to add: I'm asking about women's versions. TIA!

[Trek420]

SK, can I bring my checkbook to the Diablo ride/poker game?

[liksani]

Hmm, not sure if I should get a small or medium short sleeve jersey. I tend to be on the cusp for sizes. :( I have a med. Sugoi Bella Jersey that is a little loose on me, a med. Pearl Izumi jersey that fits fine on me, and a small fox jersey that fits fine. I guess that's not very helpful. :P

I'm 5'1" , 120 lbs, and 34A. Any suggestions?

[CorsairMac]

Sorry, didn't realize. I'll look around for Voler, but the Cannondale large jerseys usually fit me well. Same with Sugoi. Pearl Izumi's are usually too short for my long-ish torso.

I'm about 5'7.5", 150lbs.


Sugoi mens or womens? I have 2 Sugoi Mens jerseys both sz Lrg and my AV sz Lg Mens Club Cut jersey fits the same.

[liksani]

oh everything I referred to was women's. :) my torso tends to be too short for men's stuff. :P

[slinkedog]

Well, let me share that I have the same jersey with a different design. I ordered a medium (no elastic, shaped cut) and I wish I had ordered a large. It fits, but the front is shorter than I would like (probably because of boobage) and it is very tight in the bust. If I didn't wear a smasher-type sports bra, I couldn't wear it. I am a 36 D, and I usually wear an 8 in pants and a 10 in blouses. Medium on t shirts from places like Eddie Bauer and Old Navy.

Hope that's helpful to some of you!

[AuntieK]

Slinkedog, in other jerseys, do you normally wear a medium? Is the one you're refering to a race or club cut?
The reason I ask is that I usually wear a medium jersey. I was going to order a medium based on SadieKate's size description. But after reading your post, I wonder if I should get a large. If it's tight across the chest area, what's the fit like elsewhere?

[slinkedog]

AuntieK... first off, I love your tagline!! :)

Let's see... Shebeest jerseys I can wear a medium. That's about the only brand of women's jerseys I have. All the rest are hubby's old racing jerseys.

I think the Voler one I have is the women's club cut. It has no elastic in the hem and is shaped at the waist. It is pretty fitted on me all the way through the jersey, but especially tight in the bust.

I hope that's helpful!

[Trek420]

Voler stuff I have and love:
vests: have a mens large (AIDS ride), a womens XL (velo girls)
jerseys: mens large, womens XL (race cut?) womens L (club cut?)
arm skins: both the velogirls and TA are medium. the TA's fit well, the VG's a little tight, don't know why since they are the same size etc, guess my arms bulk up in pink?-heh.

Me:
short chubby gal, 5'1", 150'ish,

[Fuji Girl]

Sugoi mens or womens? I have 2 Sugoi Mens jerseys both sz Lrg and my AV sz Lg Mens Club Cut jersey fits the same.

Women's sizes - all my stuff is Women's.

[cindysue]

I generally wear a medium: 36C, 150#, wide hips, skinny arms, normal waist

AV men's sleeveless race cut in medium is snug everywhere. I ordered the mens jersey thinking it would be longer in the torso than the womens but the tight waist band is a real downer.

cinderella women's club cut in medium was too small. I traded it for a large and have a lot more room in the bust area.

summary - women's large club cut works best for me

[slinkedog]

:cool: And she's at least 5' 10".


I generally wear a medium: 36C, 150#, wide hips, skinny arms, normal waist

[SadieKate]

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=4157&page=4&highlight=amici+veloci

See post #60 for the gorgeous tall redhead.

[SadieKate]

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=4257&highlight=amici+diablo

Both jerseys in this photo are women's club cut mediums. Jo and Veronica can give you fit particulars.

If you are at all concerning that your measurements put you on the line between 2 sizes, you will probably be better off with the next larger size.

[DrBee]

I'm 5'6" around 135lbs, 36A (definitely not major boobage) and wear a medium in cannondale. I'm thinking M would work - right? I'm going for the women's club cut - short sleeve and the arm warmers.

[cindysue]

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=4157&page=4&highlight=amici+veloci

See post #60 for the gorgeous tall redhead.

LOL, notice how I'm hugging my hips with my hands :D :D :D

[cindysue]

If you are at all concerning that your measurements put you on the line between 2 sizes, you will probably be better off with the next larger size.

ditto, ......

[SadieKate]

I'm 5'6" around 135lbs, 36A (definitely not major boobage) and wear a medium in cannondale. I'm thinking M would work - right? I'm going for the women's club cut - short sleeve and the arm warmers.You pretty similar in build to Jobob and aka_kim. That sounds like the right size. J&K, your opinion?

[Selkie]

I can't believe I joined PayPal and got 2 jerseys & arm warmers. Now that, ladies, shows how bad I wanted this stuff--joining paypal, uggh!! haha.

You know, it would be awesome if TE would carry it. Maybe you can do socks, too.

[SadieKate]

You know, it would be awesome if TE would carry it. Maybe you can do socks, too.Ssshhh! It takes like 250 pairs for a min order. Now, if everyone wanted to order 2 dozen a piece. Sure. But then, some people would want black and some would want white and some would . . . . snap, where're the martinis??!!

[DrBee]

should I also go for M arm warmers?

[jobob]

I'm 5'6" around 135lbs, 36A (definitely not major boobage) and wear a medium in cannondale. I'm thinking M would work - right? I'm going for the women's club cut - short sleeve and the arm warmers.

Medium women's club cut should work fine for you. What's your pants size?

I'm about 5'7", 145 pounds, 34A on top, and I wear a size 10. The medium women's club cut short-sleeve jersey fits me about perfectly. There is a bit of room left over for more boobage (as with all of my clothing :p ) but it fits fine on my hips.

I also have a medium women's race cut sleeveless, since race cut was all that was available for sleeveless. It has elastic on the bottom and it's cut less generously over the hips. At first I didn't like it because it was a bit snug on my hips, but as I wear it, it rides up a bit and it doesn't bother me, so it's fine. I really don't want to alter it or remove the elastic. In retrospect, I think were I to do it again I would order a large in the race cut (which is precisely what I did for the sleeveless LRRH jersey, I'll find out eventually if that was a good approach).

But bear in mind I do not like snug clothing.

[jobob]

As for arm warmers, I don't have large arms and I went for the unisex small, but I find them uncomforatble. You might want to try mediums.

If they end up being too big for you, you might be able to swap them with someone who has a small pair, since as AG pointed out they do run a bit on the small side.

[DrBee]

Thanks jobob - my pants size is an 8. I'm going with the M club short sleeve. Any thoughts on the arm warmers?

edit: you're quick! You beat me to it!

[DrBee]

going with M all around. I really want the arm warmers - come ladies - buy up those longsleeve jerseys and arm warmers! Let's get to 25. :D

Snap - do we have a count yet?

[spazzdog]

I am already the proud owner of a jersey (thank you again SK and Snap) but I will probably wear a different one on Sat's Diablo/ "watch-spazz-blo" ride...

I'm thinking my crash test dummy might be appropo... oh god - I feel a fashion crisis coming on!

spazz

[kjay]

That's the coolest jersey I've EVER seen! Am interested in a short-sleeve jersey and arm warmers. I generally take XL in everything (unfortunately). Am 5'4", 175 (but shapely). ;) Don't suppose anyone here is anywhere near my shape, but if you are, you can confirm what I think I already know, ie, "XL" . . . And what size for arm warmers? My upper arm measures 13".

I'll be on a week-long bike tour around August 7 timeframe, but delivery timeframe should be something that can be worked out with snap, I hope.

Thanks for this super "thread" :D

[Duck on Wheels]

One "hole" in my wardrobe is a thermo vest. Matching arm warmers would go well with that, if they fit. I do have black ones, Sugoi, XL. Will XL in these fit the same? I'll check the measurements list for the vest fit. But I'll wait til Monday or Tuesday to place to order. Don't want to count my insurance chickens before the settlement offer is on the table.

[tprevost]

does anyone have a picture or a link so I can check out this thermavest thingy. I've already ordered one jersey but I just LOVE them and might need MORE!!!

T~

[snapdragen]

does anyone have a picture or a link so I can check out this thermavest thingy. I've already ordered one jersey but I just LOVE them and might need MORE!!!

T~

http://www.voler.com/products.aspx?CID=1&PID=21

[Tater]

I'm five-four, 124# and barely fill out a 36 B. Think a small jersey would do the trick? I am trying to decide between long or short sleeved.

[Trekhawk]

I'm five-four, 124# and barely fill out a 36 B. Think a small jersey would do the trick? I am trying to decide between long or short sleeved.


Be naughtly like me and get both.:D

[SadieKate]

Yellow, your opinion for Tater? Not many people ordered smalls.

Tater, do you like race cut jerseys? In other words, traditional jerseys with eleastic at the bottom? You might be able to go either way depending on your hips. I hate elastic because it rides up and settles around my waist leaving a very unattractive gap of white goo showing.

[GLC1968]

Ok, I'm still having issues with the sizing. According to the chart, I'd be a small in every category except hips. Is that reason enough to order up for a medium? I have one jersey that is a little big, and the flapping in the breeze annoys me, so I'm torn.

I'm 5'4", 34A/B with a 27" waist...all my weight is in my butt and legs...so I'm pretty small on top.

Small or medium? :confused:

[yellow]

I'm five-four, 124# and barely fill out a 36 B. Think a small jersey would do the trick? I am trying to decide between long or short sleeved.
Lesee...You have 2 inches on me and I am a 36A. I have the women's club cut in a small and wish that I had a med. It fits, but more snugly than I like. I have muscular arms/back/shoulders, so that may be part of why it fits the way it does. I am generally pretty true to a small in just about everything.

In Voler's OTHER fabric, I'm comfy in a small race cut. But as SK noted, this fabric fits a little tighter, hence the "smaller" feel.

[SadieKate]

Tater, we'll have our AV jerseys at the LRRH. You can try them on (pre- or post-ride :eek: )

[CorsairMac]

I'm five-four, 124# and barely fill out a 36 B. Think a small jersey would do the trick? I am trying to decide between long or short sleeved.


wellllllllllllllllllllll - since I would REAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY LOVEEEEEEEE to have a LS jersey, I'm voting that you NEED the LS jersey at the least - but then come summer you'll just Kick yourself if you don't have the short sleeved also....................so get both!!!

[Trekhawk]

wellllllllllllllllllllll - since I would REAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY LOVEEEEEEEE to have a LS jersey, I'm voting that you NEED the LS jersey at the least - but then come summer you'll just Kick yourself if you don't have the short sleeved also....................so get both!!!

Hey Corsair - Thanks for helping me justify my purchase of both long and short sleeve. :D

[CorsairMac]

Hey Corsair - Thanks for helping me justify my purchase of both long and short sleeve. :D


sometimes it's the little things ya know! :D

[Tater]

Be naughtly like me and get both.:D

I was thinking just that! :p

As for elastic...meh, I could go either way. I have a couple of jerseys that have it and the elastic never stays put. My favorite jersey, a Zoic, doesn't have it, so I may go that route.

I think I will wait until LRRH and just try one on, uh, most likely pre ride! :D I'll be there early anyway.

[jobob]

Ok, I'm still having issues with the sizing. According to the chart, I'd be a small in every category except hips. Is that reason enough to order up for a medium? I have one jersey that is a little big, and the flapping in the breeze annoys me, so I'm torn.

I'm 5'4", 34A/B with a 27" waist...all my weight is in my butt and legs...so I'm pretty small on top.

Small or medium? :confused:

Perhaps my previous post would help you decide.

[Brandi]

Sadiekate, you have MS?
One of our very dear friends got diagnosed with ms about 5 years ago. he is a avid rider. He seems to be progressing slow, which is good. He is the reason we got into biking and love him dearly for introducing us to such a wonderful sport. He has been trying to talk us into going on this bike trip with him for years now. We finally said yes this year. We figured life is to short to not step out your front door and experience life like he does. Some day he will be in a wheel chair, which hurts my heart but he is not going down till he absolutly can't do it any more. I am sorry for your illness but it is awsome that you keep moving forward. You will be in my thoughts when we are on this trip with our friend!

[SadieKate]

We figured life is to short to not step out your front door and experience life like he does. Couldn't agree more!


Some day he will be in a wheel chair, which hurts my heart but he is not going down till he absolutly can't do it any more. I am sorry for your illness but it is awsome that you keep moving forward. You will be in my thoughts when we are on this trip with our friend!Brandi, MS takes many, many forms and faces. It affects each of us differently and, while I don't know about your friend, there is no guarantee that a wheelchair will ever be necessary. Don't worry about the future for him. He's doing that all on his own. Just be there for the times when he may need help during a flare (which may be frequently or hardly ever) and buy him a jersey! :D

Check out this bike team. Two members have MS. Biogen Idec manufactuers Avonex, one of the MS therapies.
http://www.teambiogenidec.com/about.html

Just go ride with him!

[Brandi]

Thanks Sadiekate! He is an awsome friend! And we do support him as much as we can. He was an eye surgeon and had to quite after just 8 years in the field. He now has a hotel in Crested Bute. It was a smart move on he's part. He's kids have a harder time with the MS more the he does. He's boys were 9, 11 and 13 when he found out. A bummer for sure sence jim was only 43 when he found out he had it. But he didn't let it stop him moving forward. He doesn't really have flare ups like some. He is just slowly lossing control of he's legs. But he swears cycling keeps him strong and may be the reason he can still walk. If i may ask? What is yours like? I went as far as to read a story about a guy who has MS and it really helped me understand it for him.

[SadieKate]

Just bumping to make sure everyone sees this. I don't want to hear any regretful whining later!:D

[Trek420]

how's that different from our regular whinning? :)

[Duck on Wheels]

When's the deadline? I've got medical bills that I haven't got refunded yet, but if I get a good settlement offer tomorrow from the car accident, then a jersey, vest and armwarmers are on my list. Especialleeeee if I get that candy red Trek 7.6 :D Already have the helmet to match. Hmmm... Would all that matching red be over-the-top for a Fredwina Athena like m'self? Don't wanna tip over into that overdressed category (forget what it's called, not wannabe but same meaning).

[SadieKate]

Because I'll feel guilty. I must have been a Catholic in a previous life.

[hirakukibou]

I am between a med and a small. Hmm. I have med Pearl Izumi jerseys and others in small. I guess I should get the medium. I am 5'2" 116 lbs and about a 34C. Does a medium sound right for the sleveless women's racing jersey?

[DirtDiva]

Hmmm. I'll have to sit down and have a heart to heart with my credit card. Very much doubt I can afford a jersey, but I may be able to spring for some armwarmers... :confused: Socks I could definitely afford. Not buying a dozen pairs though. :p

[DrBee]

Would all that matching red be over-the-top for a Fredwina Athena like m'self? Don't wanna tip over into that overdressed category (forget what it's called, not wannabe but same meaning).

Are you referring to OCP - obsessive compulsive poseur???

[Trek420]

SadieKate "Because I'll feel guilty. I must have been a Catholic in a previous life."

Oh please, I'm Jewish in this one. And she thinks she knows from guilt :cool: ;) :rolleyes:

[Selkie]

We IRISH CATHOLICS have our own version of guilt that puts the rest of ya to shame. Plus we have the worst luck of anyone. So there.

[Trek420]

We'll, we've been at it longer but forget where I read "Jews invented guilt, Catholics perfected it"

There, everyone happy?

Now, call your Mother.

[Duck on Wheels]

Are you referring to OCP - obsessive compulsive poseur???

Yep, that's the one. Would red bike, jersey, vest, arm warmers, and helmet (but NOT bike shorts!) put me into that scorned category -- especially when I'm only doing 10mph?

[Trek420]

no shorts?!? :eek: These would match and they're on sale at TE.

[DrBee]

bikeless - oh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Revel in it :) But I would suggest some sort of shorts :p

[SadieKate]

There is no such thing as too much red.

[Trek420]

except mabe here :cool:

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=6183

[SadieKate]

OK, Dita, since you seem so determined to take this thread on a tangent, you are now officially in charge of answering all questions pertaining to size and ordering. I'm not sure that I can catch all of them.

Anyone not get the info the need about the jerseys and arm warmers?

[Duck on Wheels]

except mabe here :cool:

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=6183

Exactly! Not that I have the same kind of bulges to hide, but I took the hint and thought about the ostomy bag. My shorts are tan and black, respectively, and both baggy. ;)

So now that you are the designated size consultant, and we've agreed that I'm sticking with jersey, vest, arm warmers ... Any size suggestions?

[Trek420]

ok, here's how this post works.

Of course the best way to determine your size is find some Voler stuff and try it on. Remember that the fabric and also if it's race cut or club cut etc impacts the fit. Now, here's how this game works.

Read the quote and see if the TE gal is built anything like your bod. If so, their Voler fit info will help you! thought putting it all in one place could help.

Happy shopping :D

Jobob's "5'7", 145 pounds, 34A on top, size 10. The medium women's club cut short-sleeve jersey fits me about perfectly. There is a bit of room left over for more boobage (as with all of my clothing ) but it fits fine on my hips...As for arm warmers, I don't have large arms and I went for the unisex small, but I find them uncomforatble. You might want to try mediums."
==========================
fishdr "my pants size is an 8. I'm going with the M club short sleeve."
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yellow "5'2"? "36A. I have the women's club cut in a small and wish that I had a med. It fits, but more snugly than I like. I have muscular arms/back/shoulders, so that may be part of why it fits the way it does. I am generally pretty true to a small in just about everything."
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slinkdog "I have the same jersey with a different design. I ordered a medium (no elastic, shaped cut) and I wish I had ordered a large. It fits, but the front is shorter than I would like (probably because of boobage) and it is very tight in the bust. If I didn't wear a smasher-type sports bra, I couldn't wear it. I am a 36 D, and I usually wear an 8 in pants and a 10 in blouses. Medium on t shirts from places like Eddie Bauer and Old Navy. "..."I think the Voler one I have is the women's club cut. It has no elastic in the hem and is shaped at the waist. It is pretty fitted on me all the way through the jersey, but especially tight in the bust."
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Trek "Voler stuff I have and love:
vests: have a mens large (AIDS ride), a womens XL (velo girls)
jerseys: mens large, womens XL (race cut?) womens L (club cut?)
arm skins: both the velogirls and TA are medium. the TA's fit well, the VG's a little tight, don't know why since they are the same size etc, guess my arms bulk up in pink?-heh.
Me: short chubby gal, 5'1", 150'ish"
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cindysue " generally wear a medium: 36C, 150#, wide hips, skinny arms, normal waist AV men's sleeveless race cut in medium is snug everywhere. I ordered the mens jersey thinking it would be longer in the torso than the womens but the tight waist band is a real downer. cinderella women's club cut in medium was too small. I traded it for a large and have a lot more room in the bust area. summary - women's large club cut works best for me" also "In Voler's OTHER fabric, I'm comfy in a small race cut. But as SK noted, this fabric fits a little tighter, hence the "smaller" feel."

*editors note-she's tall too :)
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Adventuregirl "I'd also like to mention that the arm warmers run a little small. They are called "unisex" sizing. I would normally consider myself a unisex small. But I have medium arm warmers, and they are just about right. Unisex small arm warmers would have been too small for me." * editors note AG is shorter than me, but very strong of course :D
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tprevost " got the sleeveless race jersey. My shoulders are so broad that sleeveless stuff usually works best!"
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SK: "5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs, short waisted, 34D, plenty of hip.
Women's medium club cut fits very closely, like a road jersey for racing. A large would flap on me. Unisex size S windvest - I removed the elastic and hemmed up. Fits snugly on the hips but doesn't flap in the breeze (I believe jo likes flap-happy vest while I hate the sound of it). Women's sleeveless Race Cut jersey in size med also. Fits much like the club cut after I removed the elastic and hemmed also as, otherwise, hem would rise to the point of least resistance - somewhere above my belly button. Size medium armwarmers - The smalls are a wee bit snug so I went with the meds. They feel a tad loose but don't slide down. I'm probably in the middle of these two sizes."

[SadieKate]

Wonderful, Dita. Can you add me? This really does help.

5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs, short waisted, 34D, plenty of hip.
Women's medium club cut fits very closely, like a road jersey for racing. A large would flap on me.
Unisex size S windvest - I removed the elastic and hemmed up. Fits snugly on the hips but doesn't flap in the breeze (I believe jo likes flap-happy vest while I hate the sound of it).
Women's sleeveless Race Cut jersey in size med also. Fits much like the club cut after I removed the elastic and hemmed also as, otherwise, hem would rise to the point of least resistance - somewhere above my belly button.
Size medium armwarmers - The smalls are a wee bit snug so I went with the meds. They feel a tad loose but don't slide down. I'm probably in the middle of these two sizes.

[CorsairMac]

I'm just happy bikeless clarified she Had shorts - for a moment there when she said red bike, red jersey, red helmet, red arm warmers and no shorts that she was riding in no shorts.........

which I guess would solve the whole issue of being or not being a poseur - since no one would be looking at her jersey et al! :p

[kjay]

Sorry if I missed this information earlier, but how do I go about getting snap's email address? Send her a PM, I suppose?

[SadieKate]

It's on the order form which is on the photobucket link.

[kjay]

Yes, of course, and thanks very much. :)

[snapdragen]

Sorry if I missed this information earlier, but how do I go about getting snap's email address? Send her a PM, I suppose?

snapdragen at yahoo dot com

[maillotpois]

Order in! Wish I could do more than just 2 jerseys (for me and PP) right now, but we're a bit (a lot) strapped for cash.

[Quillfred]

I have a couple ordering questions:

1)What is the unisex sizing? Would it be men's? I searched and couldn't find an answer to this.

2)I am interested in the wind vest. Should I not order one since it doesn't appear there will be the minimum order met?

Thanks

Quillfred

[winddance]

My order will be in on Thursday...have to wait until payday! :eek: I feel like I use that smiley a lot...

[SadieKate]

1)What is the unisex sizing? Would it be men's? I searched and couldn't find an answer to this.

2)I am interested in the wind vest. Should I not order one since it doesn't appear there will be the minimum order met?Unisex is really the same as men's.

Windvests are part of the short sleeve group. Snap, does it look like we won't hit the minimum?

We have until the 14th for all orders.

[winddance]

Order sent!

[jobob]

So, while SK and Bubba were loading up the trailer this evening I asked "how can I help?" and Sarah responded "want to measure some jerseys?"

Um, OK.

So here are the measurements I took of the Voler sample jerseys in women's club cut.

For chest width (CW) I layed the jersey flat and measured across the front of the jersey directly below the armpits.

For front length (FL) I measured the center seam, from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

Likewise, for the rear length (RL), I measured from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

Alll measurements are in inches.

Hopefully these will help, along with Voler's size charts.

size-CW-FL-RL

XS 15 17.5 22.5
S 16 18.5 23.5
M 17.5 19 24
L 18 20 25.5
XL 19 21 26
2XL 21 22 26.5
3XL 21.5 22.5 28

Err, I can't make the columns line up but hopefully you can figure this out.


- jo "just doing my part for the team" bob

[DirtDiva]

So how do the arm warmer sizes work again? My rough-as-guts measurement technique gives me 10-10.5" around the top of my arm, wrist comese up at 5.5" (I always knew I had skinny wrists, but..! :eek:) and about 17.5-18" between the two. Medium? Could be a moot point - I'm still in talks with my credit card - but we'll see how much work I get over the next couple of weeks.

[Lise]

Jo, thank you very much for the measurements. That really helps me. I just pulled out my tape measure, and the front of my chest is 20", so an XL it is. I know people pay big bucks for boobage similar to mine, but...sheesh. :rolleyes:

Does anyone have a picture or link for the windshell jacket? That's what I'm thinking of getting for sure.

Is it a minimum of orders, total, or a minimum of each kind? I haven't heard anyone else talking about the jacket. Does that mean I couldn't get one if the minimum order's not met? If so, I'll order a jersey. (May order both!)

Thanks, all. L.

As gorgeous as SLC's mountains are, I feel soooo much better back in the flatlands! I just love being home, period. Cats are happy, too! :p

[CorsairMac]

Is it a minimum of orders, total, or a minimum of each kind? I haven't heard anyone else talking about the jacket. Does that mean I couldn't get one if the minimum order's not met? If so, I'll order a jersey. (May order both!)

Thanks, all. L.

As gorgeous as SLC's mountains are, I feel soooo much better back in the flatlands! I just love being home, period. Cats are happy, too! :p

or May order both?....May??.....Lise lise lise - hunny.....think of it this way, when you don't need the windjacket anymore ya'll will just kick yourself coz you don't a jersey to proudly wear and Then where would you be? I Ask you!! *nods head wisely*

[CorsairMac]

- I'm still in talks with my credit card - but we'll se how much work I get over the next couple of weeks.


mine and I are just ignoring each other now: I ignore the fact I owe on it, and it ignores the fact that I'm broke. We seem to be doing just fine this way! ;)

[Lise]

or May order both?....May??.....Lise lise lise - hunny.....think of it this way, when you don't need the windjacket anymore ya'll will just kick yourself coz you don't a jersey to proudly wear and Then where would you be? I Ask you!! *nods head wisely*
This is so true.

About the jacket--anybody know if it's loose or fitted? I want loose, so if it's fitted, I'll spend my schmoolah on jerseys (sleeveless and long sleeved?) instead.

[winddance]

There's a picture (http://www.voler.com/products.aspx?CID=3&PID=9) on the Voler site.

It fit like my other cycling jackets, and was cut a bit more generously due to the unisex sizing. It didn't have any female-specific darts or seaming or anything. I tried on the same as my women's jersey size and found it to be decently roomy.

[Lise]

Thank you, that was very helpful! :D L.

[tehj]

Thanks for the measurements! It always helps me (when buying online) to have those dimensions for comparison!

[Duck on Wheels]

Gosh darn. Paypal won't let me open an account. Apparently I opened one once with a different card, different address, whatever ... now I can't do a new one with my new card and new address. I give up.

Update: I decided to give it another try by logging in my email address (which is what the darn system recognized) and clicking the "forgot my password" button. Thought maybe I could update the credit card info once I was in. But no. Apparently my email system chucks out paypal messages as spam (maybe due to the gazillions of phishing attempts using the paypal address). Anyway, it's been about an hour now and the email from paypal with my new password has not yet arrived. I'm stumped. :(

[snapdragen]

From PayPal website:

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Hear other account-specific information

[Duck on Wheels]

I don't know. At this point I think the only thing I would want to call them about would be to get my information out of their system. But then, since the information is largely outdated, I'm not too worried about that either. But maybe I'll look you up when I'm in California (from 26 June) and leave a cash payment for an order next round.

[snapdragen]

I don't know. At this point I think the only thing I would want to call them about would be to get my information out of their system. But then, since the information is largely outdated, I'm not too worried about that either. But maybe I'll look you up when I'm in California (from 26 June) and leave a cash payment for an order next round.

Or make your sister pay for your jersey.......:rolleyes:

[Duck on Wheels]

That could work. Whaddya say, Trek420? Are you on PayPal? I could send you a check, maybe ...?

[snapdragen]

OK - here's the count so far. We've not met minimum yet.

Short sleeve jersey - 24 (need 25)

Arm Warmers - 4 (need 25 if ordered alone, 15 if we get 10 long sleeve)

Long Sleeve - 6 (need 10)

It's still early, don't panic.

[Selkie]

snap - could you put totals a couple days before the dealine, please? if need be, i can order another pair of armwarmers if it can get us closer to the minimum.

[Bron]

Hello,

Would you ship to Europe? And if so, does anyone have any idea how much it might cost? I know my little sister needs more jerseys (she only has one so far), and although I don´t exactly need one, they look pretty cool.

Bron

[yellow]

Hey, for some great pictures of the jersey in action, go see the LRRH News Feed (http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=7176)thread in Southwest! The ride pictures are toward the bottom of page 1. The jersey was the subject of many conversations at LRRH (all positive)!

[snapdragen]

Bron - I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I'll find out and post later.

I'll keep updating the totals as we get closer to the deadline.

[DrBee]

Surely those ladies that ordered short sleeve jerseys will need to warm their arms in the fall and winter. Those purty arm warmers would do the trick and look stylin' at the same time. Hint hint hint....

[Lise]

As the weather finally warms up in Chicago, I'm leaning more to sleeveless vs. jacket (yeah, Corsair, I know, get both!)

So now I'm debating--sleeveless jersey vs. windvest. It looks like the windvest could even be worn on its own as a jersey. Does anyone else own a windvest?

[luv'nAustin]

How about the sleeveless jerseys? I think I ordered one of them...am I the only one?

[snapdragen]

How about the sleeveless jerseys? I think I ordered one of them...am I the only one?

No, lots of sleeveless jerseys ordered, they're counted as shortsleeved.

[Adventure Girl]

There's no better advertisement for these jerseys than these lovely ladies:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/tasdan/Rides/LRRH/LRRH103.jpg

[Lise]

Ha! I just counted bikes, then riders, then bikes again...

6 bikes, 5 riders-->-->-->somebody's taking the picture! Doh! :rolleyes: L.

[pkq]

What language is amici veloci part of?

[snapdragen]

What language is amici veloci part of?

Italian? I think....

[Geonz]

Those 4 arm warmers... is that pairs of arm warmers, or each one? If I were to order one for each of my arms would the total go to 6? (I'd have to talk to my friend with PayPal...)

[snapdragen]

No............it would go to 5



Those 4 arm warmers... is that pairs of arm warmers, or each one? If I were to order one for each of my arms would the total go to 6? (I'd have to talk to my friend with PayPal...)

[Tater]

Well wasn't that just peachy...the LRRH jersey I just got is a Voler. Now I know what AV jersey to order!

[Brandy]

Ack...I need to order two of these and I leave on Thursday and don't have time to look for a shop that carries Voler jerseys. I'm 5'5, weigh 135 and have no boobs! I usually wear medium in everything, is that a pretty safe bet?

Oh...and what do you think the chances of these being delivered prior to August 18th will be? I want to wear it when I ride the Cool Breeze Century!

[snapdragen]

Brandy, go back a few pages to post 117 - Trek has posted various body type/descriptions. Maybe that will help you decide.

[Brandy]

Thanks Snap...I think I'll go with a medium.

[aka_kim]

Well wasn't that just peachy...the LRRH jersey I just got is a Voler. Now I know what AV jersey to order!They're of different materials, though. The LRRH jersey is a little roomier than the AV.

[snapdragen]

If the fabric for the LLRH jersey is the same as the Cinderella jersey - the AV jersey fabric is a tad stretchier.....I think....

***gotta go back through the post, I think SadieKate posted about this....

[pkq]

That was my thought. But a translator from Italian to English didn't recognize it. Maybe one word at a time will work.


Italian? I think....

[Tater]

If the fabric for the LLRH jersey is the same as the Cinderella jersey - the AV jersey fabric is a tad stretchier.....I think....

***gotta go back through the post, I think SadieKate posted about this....

Ah, okay. Thanks!

[mtbdarby]

As always I"m a little pokey. I'm hoping to get my order in by the end of the week. Was there a translation of the words posted? I'd like to here that again. I'm leaning toward a ls jersey & maybe a jacket.

I went back & checked the sizes on post 117. I see you guys were razzing my team Polska guys again, lol.. Don't you know they are the motivation to get me through my races??!!:D Goss, I love red....'cept they don't look like that when they're ridin', hehehehehehehe

[bikerz]

I think it is Latin, not Italian for "fast friends" (puns intended, I'm sure!)

[aka_kim]

Amici Veloci is supposed to mean Fast Friends in Italian, according to Babelfish. Maybe all this time we've been wearing jerseys that really say something like "When pigs fly". :eek:

[Adventure Girl]

Amici Veloci is supposed to mean Fast Friends in Italian, according to Babelfish. Maybe all this time we've been wearing jerseys that really say something like "When pigs fly". :eek:Matching socks?
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/absolutesocks_1899_54594418

[miffy'sFuji]

Babelfish is correct. I knew Amici before, and asked my friend (who is fluent in Italian) about the word "Veloci." She asked in what context, and I told her, and she replied, "Fast friends, that's cute!"

:)

[DrBee]

*subliminal message*......buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys..... buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys.....

[DrBee]

And a matching helmet (toddler size)

[snapdragen]

And a matching helmet (toddler size)

I so want that helmet!!!!

[snapdragen]

Well thank goodness. I think when we came up with the name, we relied on bablefish. I always had this little nagging fear that we'd come up with some italian curse word.......:rolleyes:



Babelfish is correct. I knew Amici before, and asked my friend (who is fluent in Italian) about the word "Veloci." She asked in what context, and I told her, and she replied, "Fast friends, that's cute!"

:)

[DrBee]

My son (age 2) has that helmet. He is ridiculously cute in it. I will have to post a pic later.

[CorsairMac]

and now for a word from our sponsers:




*subliminal message*......buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys..... buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys.....






thanks - we will now return you to your regularly scheduled programme

[Geonz]

(I will - at least arm warmers and short sleeve! - when I get back from GITAP and there's a new paycheck in the bank... *maybe* a bigger one...)

[Brandy]

I want that helmet too! Too bad that I have a huge noggin. :D

[kjay]

I think it is Latin, not Italian for "fast friends" (puns intended, I'm sure!)


I thought it was "I love speed!" :D

[DirtDiva]

*subliminal message*......buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys..... buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys.....
;) Never fear, fishie. My credit card and I may yet agree to disagree on whether or not I can afford armwarmers, as long as someone tells me how I know what size to get (the Voler site wasn't helpful) and as long as the postage over the pond isn't going to be exorbitant...

Great photo of y'all in your AV kit, by the way. :)

[bikerz]

I'll be getting arm warmers for a friend, a second jersey for me, and I just got the check from the Danville parking lot guy (the story SK never told!), so that's another shortsleeve jersey...

[DrBee]

bwaaahaaahaahaaahaaaa - what subliminal message? I didn't see anything...


What's that sound????? Is it the sound of arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys calling your name????

[Brandy]

What do you think the chances of these arriving in my hands by August 18th are? I really want to wear it in my first century!

BTW...I'm going to put in my order as soon as I get Tiffanie's sizing. I'm buying her an AV jersey for her birthday present. :D

[jobob]

What do you think the chances of these arriving in my hands by August 18th are? OK Brandy, since this is the second time you asked, I'll take a crack at it.

This is what SadieKate posted in post #1 of this thread:


After much procrastination, I’ve finally got the new order process ready and Snap has graciously agreed to collect the orders with payment via PayPal. If we can get the orders collected by June 14, the orders will be shipped the week of August 7th. They’ll go off to the equally gracious yellow (to avoid CA taxes) who will ship the individual jerseys.

You know, there are some things that are simply out of snapdragen and sadiekate's hands.

Voler has given them an estimated shipment date, but the actual honest to goodness date that the order is shipped out from Voler is completely out of snapdragen and sadiekate's control.

It could be shipped out the beginning of the week of August 7th, or it could be shipped out the end of the week of August 7th (which would be August 11th). Or, it could be shipped out later. Stuff happens.

Furthermore, the order has to make it's way to yellow in Salt Lake City. So if the shipment departs from Voler near the end of the week of August 7th (that is, closer to August 11th), it might arrive at Casa Yellow well into the following week, if not later.

Plus, once the shipment arrives at Casa Yellow, yellow must find the time to re-package and to ship out every single order to each and every person who has placed an order. That adds another variable to the equation.

Bottom line, I think the chances of you receiving your jersey by August 18th are slim.

I hope this answers your question.

- Jo.

[jobob]

Well thank goodness. I think when we came up with the name, we relied on bablefish. I always had this little nagging fear that we'd come up with some italian curse word.......:rolleyes: I was kind of wondering that when yellow and SK's friend HotRodd rode up behind me and yelled "Amici Veloci my @ss!" :D

[Brandy]

OK Brandy, since this is the second time you asked, I'll take a crack at it.

.

Thanks Jo...I didn't see anyone answer it the first time, so I thought I'd throw it out there again. :D

[jobob]

;) Never fear, fishie. My credit card and I may yet agree to disagree on whether or not I can afford armwarmers, as long as someone tells me how I know what size to get (the Voler site wasn't helpful) and as long as the postage over the pond isn't going to be exorbitant...

Earlier in this thread, AG (post # 51) and I (post #78) both discussed how we thought the arm warmers run small.

So, unless your arms are very slender, I suggest you order arm warmers in a size medium.

- Jo.

[Lise]

OK. I'm going to get a Windshell Vest. Unless someone tells me I can't because not enough people are getting that. Let me know--if I can't get that, I'll get a sleeveless jersey. Thanks, ladies.

PS, fishdr, will you post or pm me where I can get that helmet? I want it for my niece's 3rd b-day. Here's what my sister said when I forwarded her the picture and asked if Maya would like it:

She actually "yovs yittow piggies", so I think she'll be very happy with it!

[SadieKate]

If the fabric for the LLRH jersey is the same as the Cinderella jersey - the AV jersey fabric is a tad stretchier.....I think....

***gotta go back through the post, I think SadieKate posted about this....Yo, dudettes! I am back in Kahlifonia!

The LRRH jersey is made from Aries Microplus fabric which is a bit stretchier than SQPro which is used in the Amici Veloci jerseys. The LRRH jersey is definitely roomer than the AV jersey.

I put all kinds of helpful (I hope) sizing info on the order form.

[SadieKate]

Shortsleeve group includes short sleeve jerseys (duh ;)) , sleeveless jerseys, windvests and thermal vests. See "Short Sleeve Options" on the order form.

The long sleeve group includes long sleeve jerseys in either SQPro fabric or a heavier winter weight lycra, wind jackets and thermal jackets.

[SadieKate]

. . . and I just got the check from the Danville parking lot guy (the story SK never told!), so that's another shortsleeve jersey...Cool, I was wondering if he'd follow through. Since you were a partner in crime and have a major role, feel free to tell the story.:D

[snapdragen]

Jersey Count

5 Arm warmers

6 Long sleeve

28 Short sleeve

We've met the minimum for SS jerseys. 5 more armwarmers, 4 more long sleeve.

snap *thinking about a jacket* dragen

[Lise]

CRUD! Why is this decision so hard? Like, what if I get a jacket, which is a darned good idea in Chicago, but then, one day, a miracle happens, and I'm riding in California (loved your pronounciation, SK, I most certainly heard your esteemed gov'nr shining through!), and all the TE girls are there and they all have their sleeveless jerseys, I can't exactly wear my jacket then, can I, and won't I be sorry I didn't get a jersey, cuz then I won't be one of the girls, and I want to look cool in the pictures like they do....

(we apologize for this unauthorized broadcast of stream of thought from Lise's head. The Management)

[aka_kim]

The thermal jacket is soft and warm, and per the style maven, good après-bike wear.

[Tiffanie]

What do you think the chances of these arriving in my hands by August 18th are? I really want to wear it in my first century!

BTW...I'm going to put in my order as soon as I get Tiffanie's sizing. I'm buying her an AV jersey for her birthday present. :D

http://www.tinklebelle.com/Smilies/images/woohoo.gif

:D

[DrBee]

PS, fishdr, will you post or pm me where I can get that helmet? I want it for my niece's 3rd b-day. Here's what my sister said when I forwarded her the picture and asked if Maya would like it:

She actually "yovs yittow piggies", so I think she'll be very happy with it!

Lise - it's made by Specialized. It's Specialized Kid Cobra Bicycle Helmet (flying pigs) model. I bought it at the LBS in Memphis. I just checked and saw one on ebay for $15 + shipping - and it looks like the seller is in Chicago. Go figure. I didn't see any online options for buying elsewhere in a quick search. There must be an online store somewhere, though.

It'll run around $30-35 at the LBS. It's nice because it's fully adjustable. So my son's little peanut head at age 1 fit well and it still fits him with lots of room now that he's 2. It says 48-51cm inside. I hope you find one!

[SadieKate]

Babelfish is correct. I knew Amici before, and asked my friend (who is fluent in Italian) about the word "Veloci." She asked in what context, and I told her, and she replied, "Fast friends, that's cute!"

:)

Miffy, ask your friend if this is correct. This is pkq's motto: Soffio Crema Veloce.

Boy, I am just coming up with all kinds of good jersey ideas.:eek:

[pkq]

Miffy, ask your friend if this is correct. This is pkq's motto: Soffio Crema Veloce.

Boy, I am just coming up with all kinds of good jersey ideas.:eek:

Huh? Once again, your brilliant mind has my dull mind at a disadvantage. :)

[SadieKate]

Try the old babelfish thingie-ma-bob.

Fast Cream Puff. :D

[pkq]

Been there, done that but it didn't yield that translation. :confused:

[snapdragen]

Try the old babelfish thingie-ma-bob.

Fast Cream Puff. :D

How funny. If you do English to Italian - it's soffio crema veloce

If you to Italian to English - it's breath fast cream.:confused:

edit: and if you use Fast Creampuff it's creampuff veloce.:cool:

[miffy'sFuji]

i sent an email to my friend...

hehehe. what will she think? I told her it was another bike related question.:rolleyes:

[CorsairMac]

and now Another word from our sponser: Soffia Creme Veloce





*subliminal message*......buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys..... buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys.....



and now back to our regularly scheduled programme

[Duck on Wheels]

Trek420, did you get the PayPal thing to work? A jersey and arm warmers would really look great when I'm on Ruby Slipperz ... :)

[pkq]

I bought 2 long sleeve jersey. You want me to buy more???? :eek:

My bank account.......may scream!


and now Another word from our sponser: Soffia Creme Veloce








and now back to our regularly scheduled programme

[Brandy]

Hey Snap...I just wanted to make sure that you got my order for two short sleeve, clubcut, medium jerseys. I'm leaving town tomorrow and won't be back until after the deadline.

Thanks!

[aka_kim]

*subliminal message*......buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys..... buy arm warmers and long sleeve jerseys.....Or the incredibly soft and comfy thermal jackets.

[SadieKate]

Speaking of which . . . Bubba just took a bunch of pictures of me (so the same body you see in the previous pix) in the sizing samples of the comfy thermal jacket, the wind jacket and the wind vest. I put the unisex sizes in the description as I am wearing a small in some pictures and a medium in others. Remember, these are samples only so the AV logo and jersey design will be on the real thing (sorry for the confusion, snap).

These are unisex sizes so the hips will be snug but the jackets don't seem to ride up because of the gusseting at the bottom. I removed the elastic from my windvest last year and really like how it fits, no flapping annoyingly.

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/SadieKate/Amici%20Veloci%20jersey/

[snapdragen]

Jacket Photos....duh. I am a maroon.....

I looked at the pix and thought - but that's not our design.....:rolleyes: Must go to bed, snap is tired.

[DrBee]

How's the count looking Snap???







*updated subliminal message* buy arm warmers... long sleeve jerseys...wind jackets...thermal jackets.......buy lots of arm warmers...long sleeve jerseys...wind jackets...thermal jackets...

[Lise]

Off to Ohio, I will make my decision and purchase when I get home...I feel strangely drawn to long-sleeved choices....:p

Have a great weekend, all! Lise

[uk elephant]

Just thought I'm put my name on this thread just in case Bikeless is out there and still wondering about birthday-present-ideas.....or Christmas presents.....or Chanukka presents.....(or any other holiday that warrants presents)......

Either short sleved or long sleved or short with arm warmers would be greatly appreciated.......and would be worn proudly both here and at the AidsRide07...

[Trek420]

ah, ok so you WILL wear bright color jerseys :cool: I'd asked Bikeless and she said you'd only wear black or earth tones. ah HAH.

[uk elephant]

In general, I prefer black and earth tones and simple designs, but I am willing to make exceptions.....

[Trek420]

Just remember we ride on the RIGHT hand side of the road :eek:

OK, here's my plan as if I have one, registration is open online for ALC6 right now and I plan to ride I'm gonna register right away. But I may wait till SF Pride Day because it's usually a little cheaper there and I may get an extra hat or somethin' there...

Also I'm thinking vest because:
1) have you ever seen me on a bike without a vest?
2) I'll have at least 2 other "jersey days", there'll be a day in Velo Girls pink, at least one day in training ride leader jersey...so complex.

[uk elephant]

Sounds like a plan to me. Much more of a plan than I have. I just plan to survive the ride......

[SadieKate]

I added some pictures last night to the photobucket album. These are pictures of me in the sizing samples of the jackets and windvests. The same Amici Veloci design will be on the real thing. I just wanted everyone to see what the cut and fabrics are like on the jackets and vest.

Sorry if I confused anyone.

[snapdragen]

Sorry if I confused anyone.

Whoever do you mean?!?:rolleyes: :o

[tprevost]

just for those counting...

I just ordered another short sleeved jersey (to go w/my sleeveless one!) and a set of arm warmers...

Trac'

[Duck on Wheels]

Sounds like a plan to me. Much more of a plan than I have. I just plan to survive the ride......
Speaking of surviving the ride ... How are you doing after that crash yesterday? And how's the old guy you tangled with doing?

Oh, and one thing I should have protested against right away ... You are NOT clumsy! Or at least, you're a lot less clumsy than I am. I can barely pick my way shakily around an ice rink. You, on the other hand, landed an axel and a double salcow with a torn ligament in your landing-side knee! Not typical of people categorized as clumsy.

[Geonz]

Is **that** how you spell salcow? <...going to put in notebook...>

[DrBee]

just for those counting...

I just ordered another short sleeved jersey (to go w/my sleeveless one!) and a set of arm warmers...

Trac'

Woohoo!!!!!!:D

[Duck on Wheels]

Is **that** how you spell salcow? <...going to put in notebook...>

No. Sorry. Forgot an H. It's salchow

[uk elephant]

Speaking of surviving the ride ... How are you doing after that crash yesterday? And how's the old guy you tangled with doing?

Oh, and one thing I should have protested against right away ... You are NOT clumsy! Or at least, you're a lot less clumsy than I am. I can barely pick my way shakily around an ice rink. You, on the other hand, landed an axel and a double salcow with a torn ligament in your landing-side knee! Not typical of people categorized as clumsy.

I'm fine, just a few big bruises. Haven't heard anything from the old guy. And I am clumsy. I may have landed an axel as some point, but I can still walk into tables on a daily basis, or door frames or anything else stationary that has a tendency to jump out at me.

[jobob]

Hello -

this thread is getting enormous and people with questions about the jersey are having a hard time wading thru all the posts to find the information they need, so wouldja, couldja, take your conversations elsewhere ?

Thank yee kindly.

[ladyfish]

I just sent in my order. The website's last update was 5 days ago--how's it looking for the arm warmers/LS???

Let us know!

[snapdragen]

I just sent in my order. The website's last update was 5 days ago--how's it looking for the arm warmers/LS???

Let us know!

Don't have the number right now, due to a database "problem":eek: . I should have something by tomorrow night. I know we've met minimum for short sleeved, and I think we may have met it for longsleeve/arm warmers.

[DrBee]

Really??? Really??? Arm warmers??? Really??? Really??? Ooh I can't wait for the count!

[tehj]

My order is in: short sleeve jersey and arm warmers! Thanks to everyone who provided sizing and fit information.

[snapdragen]

Drum Roll Please!

Short Sleeve/Sleeveless 43

Long Sleeve 11

Armwarmers 12

[SadieKate]

Does that include our 3 LS items that I haven't ordered yet? Of course, I'll be the last one to accomplish this but then I'm special.:p

[DrBee]

With the additional 3 long sleeve - does that put the arm warmer/long sleeve category over the 25 needed???????

I'm so impressed with the TE ladies for buying so many jerseys and such! That's support! Wow!

[Lifesgreat]

One SS jersey ordered! It is fun to do this kind of stuff on my "to do" list :)

[miffy'sFuji]

and being off topic, but here is the answer to "soffio crema veloce":

>Soffio crema veloce literally means a breath or breeze of fast cream.

:o

[Lise]

I'm back from Ohio! Decision time is upon us (me. Decision time has come and gone for most of you.) I am getting the wind shell jacket. I would also like a sleeveless jersey. So here's the question:

Is there a "womens' club jersey" option for sleeveless? I see only "race" in the womens' category. As I am amply supplied with fuel storage (fat) around my hips and belly, I want a looser option.

Those of you who know the fit...should I get the sleeveless men's club jersey instead?

Thanks for your help.

Lise

[SadieKate]

Cindy can tell you about the Men's jersey fit. The men's race will have even tigheter elastic than the men's club, but it will also be a bit shorter.

The women's club cut is only available in the short sleeve jersey. I personally have removed the elastic from the women's race cut jerseys and re-hemmed with great success. Nice fit, looks good (I think :p). If you look at the pics of me in the LRRH new feed thread you'll see me in a sleeveless race cut with the elastic removed.

[mtbdarby]

I ordered 1 ls jersey. If we reorder again next year, can we do this early in the spring so I can receive it for our ever-so-short summer here? Just a thought...:p Can't wait to get this one!

[SadieKate]

mtbdarby, just a guess, but I think it is a really long shot that there will be a 2nd re-order. Of course, I was blown away with the number that was ordered the first time around so I could be wrong but I'd guess this will be the last opportunity.

[mtbdarby]

SK, so I'm gonna have to keep shopping is what I hear? I'm torn between the M and L on the SS club cut. I'm 5'6", 155 and a 36A on top with a 31" waist. Any ideas? I have big arms so I'm leaning toward a large, what do you think?

[SadieKate]

Start with post #117 and then look for more comments.

Dita, have you collected all the sizing comments and updated the list??? Yes???? :)

[DirtDiva]

:eek: Better get onto that, eh? What's the deal with overseas postage? Do I paypal that to y'all separately once you know what it's going to cost?

Cheers for the armwarmer sizing help jobob. Although, with the current London temps, I'm suddenly more interested in sleeveless... Nevermind, this sunny, high twenties stuff will never last. :rolleyes:

[SadieKate]

Do I paypal that to y'all seperately once you know what it's going to cost?



SadieKate, SadieKate!
You're only half way there! Quick, before the edit button expires! (Hey, you might wanna clobber me by now, but apparently I'm keeping jobob entertained. :D)

Ahem, more entertainment for jobob?:D

[snapdragen]

:eek: Better get onto that, eh? What's the deal with overseas postage? Do I paypal that to y'all separately once you know what it's going to cost?

Cheers for the armwarmer sizing help jobob. Although, with the current London temps, I'm suddenly more interested in sleeveless... Nevermind, this sunny, high twenties stuff will never last. :rolleyes:


Overseas postage - $8.00 US - just add it to your order.

[DirtDiva]

Hee. I knew you'd get me the moment I gave you an opportunity. :p

And thanks for the info snap. I'll fire my order your way sometime tomorrow, with any luck. :)

[jobob]

Ahem, more entertainment for jobob?:D Nope, I've said all I have to say. Have fun. :)

[snapdragen]

I'm going to post this here, in it's own thread, and over at BJ.

There is no Women's Long Sleeve Club Cut jersey, only Race Cut. Longsleeve club cut is only available in Men's. If you have ordered a women's LS club cut, I'm entering the order as the race cut.

Please let me know if you need to change your order in any way.

Email me directly: snapdragen at yahoo dot com, or PM me here at TE.

Changes must be in before Thursday!

[Trek420]

I can just picture your avatar saying that. Cracks me up.

[LBTC]

Hey, ladies!

My friend Dawna took this one when we all went for a ride together last month. That's me and my DH of 18 years on part of the Test of Metal course in Squamish.

Since that race is on Saturday, and in 2 more sleeps from now (Wednesday) we'll be moving into our new house in Vernon, and he'll have quit his job to go to school to become a plumber, we aren't doing the race. On the other hand, we'll finally get on our bikes in a serious way, now that four months of living apart has nearly come to an end! YAY!

Happy riding everyone!
~T~

[Adventure Girl]

That's me and my DH of 18 years on part of the Test of Metal course in Squamish.

Since that race is on Saturday, and in 2 more sleeps from now (Wednesday) we'll be moving into our new house in VernonTOTALLY cute picture! Lookin' good in your AV jersey! It doesn't get any better than that, does it??!!:p Robert and I just celebrated our 19th anniversary. And we count the number of days in how many "go-to-beds" until the event.

[snapdragen]

I'm not sure I was clear on this - the postage for international orders will be $8 per item.

So - ss jerseys will be $70.50, ls jersey $92.00, armwarmers $37.00 etc.