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Starfish
08-19-2007, 09:15 AM
I'm curious to know how many self-declared men there are on TE, aside from Mr. Silver and Boy In A Kilt (who are great additions to the discussions).:)

Also curious to know how many women here suspect there are a lot more guys here, undeclared, than we know? I've often wondered.

kelownagirl
08-19-2007, 09:32 AM
I've only seen 1-2 suspicious ones and they don't usually hang around for long. And if I don't "notice" them, then it doesn't bother me that they're here because they are obviously not being obnoxious like some of the immature guys on bikeforums.

mimitabby
08-19-2007, 09:41 AM
there's the guy who wants to have a girls only ride in Seattle next year.
Every now and then a guy gets on here for a few posts to ask or answer a question. They really don't seem to stick around!

Kano
08-19-2007, 09:42 AM
We see "El Hombre" now and then in the "Northwest" forum. I think he's the guy who's planning a women only ride for sometime next year?


ETA: Great fingers type alike, Mimi!

Karen in Boise

Trek420
08-19-2007, 09:49 AM
Every now and then a guy gets on here for a few posts to ask or answer a question. They really don't seem to stick around!

Yep, men, who can figure them out. They never stick around. As the famous Lili Von Schtupp said in Blazing Saddles :rolleyes: ;)

www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/coming.wav

salsabike
08-19-2007, 10:07 AM
What happened to "They jump on your belly and bust your balloons?" My favorite part of that song. I LOVED her.

Anyway, there are occasional guys on here. There's an old thread somewhere that discusses this at length.

Zen
08-19-2007, 10:08 AM
Lili Von Schtupp ...


:D :D :D

I suspect there are quite a few lurkers who've been scared away from other forums and rely on us to learn a thing or two.

boy in a kilt
08-19-2007, 10:11 AM
I've had some imply that my frequent wearing of kilts and my inability to produce more offspring (thank you Dr. Snip) puts me in the "other" category. They can't deny the Y chromosome but I'm still suspect.

Fine by me. I raced bikes in high school (so I shaved my legs), and wore both eyeliner and an earring (not two, this was the early 80's mind you). At 15 years old, I figured out that men and women have different opinions about what is "manly." At 39, I don't care much anymore. I can do everything from lead soldiers in combat to comb my daughter's hair. It probably doesn't hurt that my wife finds men of that sort to be extremely attractive.

Trek420
08-19-2007, 10:29 AM
What happened to "They jump on your belly and bust your balloons?" My favorite part of that song. I LOVED her.

Anyway, there are occasional guys on here. There's an old thread somewhere that discusses this at length.

You mean the thread that had a bunch of folks so upset they left the board, some forever, some for quite a while and I think eventually got locked? That thread? Let's not revisit that I hope.

As long as they don't leave the seat up I'm pretty much ok. :cool:

As soon as we start excluding a class of people here the next group up would probably be me so.....

I can personally attest for may of the Bay Area gals because we get out and ride together. Yep, they are women :)

Duck on Wheels
08-19-2007, 10:36 AM
You mean the thread that had a bunch of folks so upset they left the board, some forever, some for quite a while and I think eventually got locked? That thread? Let's not revisit that I hope.

As long as they don't leave the seat up I'm pretty much ok. :cool:

As soon as we start excluding a class of people here the next group up would probably be me so.....

I can personally attest for may of the Bay Area gals because we get out and ride together. Yep, they are women :)

Except for Mr. JoBob. But he's cool.

KnottedYet
08-19-2007, 10:41 AM
I think Mrs. and Mr. SGTiger live about 6 blocks from me. (sorry Kilt, but you're gonna be referred to as Mr. SGTiger... it's traditional here on TE! :D )

Anyway, as soon as the rain either lets up a little, or I start going seriously stir-crazy (whichever comes first) I'm gonna post a no-notice ride in the NW section.

How about a short ride so medium-Tiger can do the trail-a-bike and tiny-Tiger can do the trailer, and outta-shape Knot can keep up?

Trek420
08-19-2007, 11:00 AM
Except for Mr. JoBob. But he's cool.

In a break with tradition Mr JoBob has his own name, LeeBob, also Mr. SK is named Bubah, V's Thom's is just Thom which is his name :eek: There goes the anonymity of the internet :eek:

I've never known any of them to post here or rarely but have met all three and they are great guys.

But then this is California so we're a little odd and let the men-folk keep their own names as opposed to just being nameless faceless DH, DBF etc.

GLC1968
08-19-2007, 11:01 AM
I'm sure there are the occasional lurking males...in fact, I know there is at least one. ;)

Mr. GLC is a member here and he occasionally lurks (or does a search) when he's looking for something specific. I'm pretty sure he doesn't hang out here on a regular basis, though. I will say that he probably takes exception to being referred to as "Mr. GLC" since I'm pretty sure he found TE before I did! :p

jobob
08-19-2007, 11:22 AM
LeeBob occasionally lurks on the California forum, to find out what rides we'll be doing, because sometimes I forget to tell him. oops. :o

But he says he's not at all interested in the general forum. Not disparagingly so, it's just not his cup of tea.

And he really likes all the TE gals he's met, and their friends and SO's.

I know I've said this before, but one time we were driving home from a TE group get-together, and he mentioned something along the lines of "you're so lucky, you've met so many great people from that internet forum, and there doesn't seem to be an axe murderer in the bunch !" :D

Triskeliongirl
08-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Roadfix is a declared guy, but he gave me wonderful advice when I posted a query on a fixie conversion for my son. He tends to hang out mostly in the maintenance forum. We had a lengthy discussion on this topic in the past, and I think the consensus was that the group was comfortable with guys posting as long as they conformed to the 'culture' here, which is more supportive and respectful than many mixed sex forums.

Zen
08-19-2007, 11:43 AM
...and there doesn't seem to be an axe murderer in the bunch !" :D
4085
Hehehe;)

Veronica
08-19-2007, 11:44 AM
In a break with tradition Mr JoBob has his own name, LeeBob, also Mr. SK is named Bubah, V's Thom's is just Thom which is his name :eek: There goes the anonymity of the internet :eek:

I've never known any of them to post here or rarely but have met all three and they are great guys.

But then this is California so we're a little odd and let the men-folk keep their own names as opposed to just being nameless faceless DH, DBF etc.

Yep - they and their spouses :) are some of my favorite riding buddies. I just could never think of Thom as my DH. Anonymity on the web is an illusion. Heck I use my real name. Our website has our real names on it.

Thom has posted a few times when I've been doing a big ride to keep folks who care informed. He always does it under my name, but signs it Thom.

V.

Starfish
08-19-2007, 11:59 AM
There's an old thread somewhere that discusses this at length.

Oops, sorry everyone. I did forget to do a search.

Starfish
08-19-2007, 12:07 PM
You mean the thread that had a bunch of folks so upset they left the board, some forever, some for quite a while and I think eventually got locked? That thread? Let's not revisit that I hope.

As long as they don't leave the seat up I'm pretty much ok. :cool:

As soon as we start excluding a class of people here the next group up would probably be me so.....

I can personally attest for may of the Bay Area gals because we get out and ride together. Yep, they are women :)

Whoa...didn't mean to revisit or start an awful thread or discussion about excluding guys. I was just curious, but probably should have thought twice about throwing this one out there.

KnottedYet
08-19-2007, 12:11 PM
don't worry, it's all cool.

Mr. Bloom
08-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Whoa...didn't mean to revisit or start an awful thread or discussion about excluding guys. I was just curious, but probably should have thought twice about throwing this one out there.

Hmmm...as the primary 'target' of the awful thread, I didn't think it was so awful. It was an important discussion that was remarkably civil in its debate.

Personally, I respect the special place you've created. As a result:

on the rare occassion that I communicate by PM, I copy Silver...don't want anyone to miscontrue my intent
I stay out of topics that I don't belong in...don't even open them...
I make sure everyone knows by my tag lines that I'm married to the lovely Silver
I don't lurk...I'm right up front with who I am...


For me, I continue to feel honored as a token estrogen laden male.

KnottedYet
08-19-2007, 12:26 PM
Mr. Silver, I *still* wanna see you in a Utili-kilt! You got those biker legs thru good old fashioned hard work! Show 'em off! Be proud of them!

http://www.utilikilts.com/index.php?page_id=13

Starfish
08-19-2007, 12:31 PM
Mr. Silver, I *still* wanna see you in a Utili-kilt!

Hear, hear! Silver is so beautiful, she has to be confident enough to not mind letting us see you all kilted up! ;)

Trek420
08-19-2007, 12:54 PM
Hmmm...as the primary 'target' of the awful thread, I didn't think it was so awful. It was an important discussion that was remarkably civil in its debate.

No, you wouldn't think that. :o Actually it was pretty G** awful and some have never been back. I'll just speak for myself there was grieving for the character of this place. We'd come to see as a womens community/space or for some to think that alone is what makes this board so great.

We've tried to figure out "why is this board unlike other boards" and thought it comes down to that. I think it's part of it, but not all.

Some of us who'd been here a while feared for its demise or be just like any other board. :(

Look, still here, still the best dang place in cyberspace :D

But perhaps we were being naive. I miss being naive. I miss leaving doors unlocked and answering the phone without caller id too.

It's the world wide web not the womens wide web. You can't put a sign that says "women only" and expect most men not to peek in :rolleyes: I don't think I want this board to be like "some other womens boards" ahem :rolleyes: where there's an approval process, that smacks of cliques, discrimination and eliteism.

I don't think we gave TE enough credit. Maybe it's more than "just" a womens board but a community where the primary rule is "civil conversation and discussion" and not "women and Mr. Silver only". :cool: ;) :rolleyes: ;) ;)

KnottedYet
08-19-2007, 01:03 PM
"civil conversation and discussion" and UTILIKILTS!!!
http://www.utilikilts.com/index.php?page_id=10

these are some fun homemade videos. "Metamorphosis" is my favorite so far.

sundial
08-19-2007, 01:13 PM
When we were vacationing on Orcas Island, we saw a man with a nice black kilt. It was really kinda cool.

Crankin
08-19-2007, 01:18 PM
I know my husband found TE before I did; he ordered rain pants for me from TE and the account was in his name for 3 years. I only found the board part of TE when I was home on vacation and bored one day during the dead of winter. I have done rides with several of the TE people who live in MA and not an axe murderer among them! Some of my friends think it's a little weird that I would meet up and ride with "strangers," but now they sort of see that it's really OK.
I think Mr. Maislin sees the board as my "place," though. When I was looking for a new bike rack earlier in the summer and he was searching, my post about how I trashed my old rack came up! It was funny and he actually checked out all of the recommendations that people made. But, he didn't continue looking through the posts, even though I think if you met him, you would agree that he is somewhat similiar to Mr. Silver and Mr. Kilt.
You can usually tell the "creepy" guys who post here and yes, they usually do not stick around.

boy in a kilt
08-19-2007, 02:14 PM
I think Mrs. and Mr. SGTiger live about 6 blocks from me. (sorry Kilt, but you're gonna be referred to as Mr. SGTiger... it's traditional here on TE! :D )

How about a short ride so medium-Tiger can do the trail-a-bike and tiny-Tiger can do the trailer, and outta-shape Knot can keep up?

None taken. For one thing, I'm married into a Korean family Koreans refer to people by their relationship to others. I'm generally "your husband" when Soo's parents are talking to her. At first, I thought it was just because my first name (Sean) can't be written in Han Gul and it's a hard name for Koreans to pronounce.

Secondly, if a man has to be known for something, why not be known for being married to his wife?

I've been aware of TE for quite some time. When Soo became a regular, I thought it was cool, but I always thought of it as "her" place. Had she not "invited" me in, I wouldn't have joined. The discussion actually came up because there are a few women that post on a kilt forum I belong to.

But back to the original post. If you see a guy in the bothell area wearing a kilt or riding a red Co-Motion, it's probably me.

I'd be into a medium-length ride. We've done the chicken park to woodinville. If I can get my hands on my friend's Xtracycle, we could go a little longer.

DirtDiva
08-19-2007, 02:36 PM
...he mentioned something along the lines of "you're so lucky, you've met so many great people from that internet forum, and there doesn't seem to be an axe murderer in the bunch !" :D
Just as well he's only met me the once then... :p

mudmucker
08-19-2007, 02:57 PM
Welcome boy in a kilt ! I've just read some of your recent posts today and find that yours, Mr. Silver, and some other men on the board offer a refreshing perspective. And always respectful. As long as respect is maintained by male posters, I am fine with that. Yes I also remember Roadfix as well, he answered a question of mine once. Sometimes when there are "anonymous" posters I think I can tell that they are men. The anonymous ones seem to post infrequently, but I say I think I can tell sometimes because these posters "speak" differently.

PscyclePath
08-19-2007, 03:59 PM
...and there doesn't seem to be an axe murderer in the bunch !"

Well, there's me too among the estrogen-deficient few; but I try to behave myself. And regular access to my bike usually suppresses the axe-murdering urges...

Tom E.
aka "PsyclePath"

MomOnBike
08-19-2007, 04:59 PM
I had my DH post for me when I was on my solo tour a few years ago. Though he posted under my name, he was careful to identify himself. It seemed to go over well.

Every now and again I'll point him to a thread he'd be interested in, but I don't think he visits otherwise. Just not his cup of tea.

On the axe murderer thought:

'Way back when DH & I were about to get married, a mutual friend pulled me aside and warned me that DH probably was/is an axe murderer, 'cause he's too nice to be real. Really - I'm not making this up!

I went ahead and married him anyway, but I've kept the axes away from him. Don't want him murdering any axes, now, do I? :D

LBTC
08-19-2007, 05:33 PM
Supportive. That's the key. We share information, insight, inspiration, positive support, etc.

My DH posted once. To thank the TE girls for their support as he went through a cancer scare. Lucky for us it was just a scare, but your thoughts, words, positive vibes, prayers, wishes, butterflies, helped us both get through that dark short chapter of our lives.

As long as we keep it supportive it's all good, right?

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

KnottedYet
08-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Murdering axes... and swords... and helmets with horns...

http://www.utilikilts.com/?page_id=113

(pssst, hey, Mr.Silver! Mr. SGTigerKilt posted a great pic of himself in one of his kilts. Your turn!)

Trek420
08-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Murdering axes... and swords... and helmets with horns...

http://www.utilikilts.com/?page_id=113

(pssst, hey, Mr.Silver! Mr. SGTigerKilt posted a great pic of himself in one of his kilts. Your turn!)

maybe posed with an axe :rolleyes: ;)

Zen
08-19-2007, 06:39 PM
I want bike shorts and suit jacket and tie in the office!

Mr. Bloom
08-19-2007, 06:58 PM
I want bike shorts and suit jacket and tie in the office!

OK Zen, I promise.

Legs shaved or not? Your choice:D

...and maybe a kilt soon as well!

boy in a kilt
08-19-2007, 07:06 PM
Trust me on this brother. You'll never go back. You will learn to hate pants.

I'm looking seriously at my next kilt coming from USAKilt in the US Army Tartan.

Starfish
08-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Do we need to create a "Kilt Mr. Silver" fund? If he poses with an axe, maybe he would be a Kilt Axer, rather than an AxeKiller. OK, OK, sorry...:rolleyes:

Trekhawk
08-19-2007, 08:09 PM
LeeBob occasionally lurks on the California forum, to find out what rides we'll be doing, because sometimes I forget to tell him. oops. :o

But he says he's not at all interested in the general forum. Not disparagingly so, it's just not his cup of tea.

And he really likes all the TE gals he's met, and their friends and SO's.

I know I've said this before, but one time we were driving home from a TE group get-together, and he mentioned something along the lines of "you're so lucky, you've met so many great people from that internet forum, and there doesn't seem to be an axe murderer in the bunch !" :D

LOL - ask Lee but I think I might have looked a little like an axe murderer yesterday while we riding and thinking where is the Bl**dy turn for the finish.:D

Wahine
08-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I loooooooooove men in kilts.

That Utilikily website is a little like soft core porn for me.

Knott. I have you to blame. DH is geting a Utilikilt for his b-day.

El Hombre
08-19-2007, 09:09 PM
I'm here but I work hard to keep a low profile and not make an *** out of myself. I hang out on a few forums that are pretty rough so I get my thrills there and try and keep it clean here. As one who is trying to put together a womens only ride, I'd rather not have potential customers trying to kill me before they meet me. I don't mind if they try and kill me after a few beers though:D

El Hombre
08-19-2007, 09:13 PM
too funny. I'm not used to forums that have a naughty word filter:D

Zen
08-20-2007, 05:36 AM
I'm here but I work hard to keep a low profile...

That's the idea. As in any situation in life, men or women, you don't want to overuse a privilege.

SouthernBelle
08-20-2007, 05:51 AM
I have a friend who lurks here on occasion. He says he just can't post here. Wouldn't be right. :lol:

Trek420
08-20-2007, 06:25 AM
I loooooooooove men in kilts.

That Utilikily website is a little like soft core porn for me.

Knott. I have you to blame. DH is geting a Utilikilt for his b-day.

or you have her to credit :D enjoy :D

mimitabby
08-20-2007, 07:48 AM
Raleighdon acts like TE is the ladies' powder room. he wouldn't be caught dead posting here; although he has allowed me to post his sentiments and comments from time to time.

Starfish
08-20-2007, 08:47 AM
I loooooooooove men in kilts.

That Utilikily website is a little like soft core porn for me.

Knott. I have you to blame. DH is geting a Utilikilt for his b-day.

I got my then-DH one for his birthday. You won't regret it! ;)

Beane
08-20-2007, 03:00 PM
Can someone tell me what DH actually stands for? dumb husband?

Zen
08-20-2007, 03:15 PM
No.
It stands for David Hargrove.
Everyone goes places with David Hargrove and buys gifts for David Hargrove.
David Hargrove is a helluva guy.

chickwhorips
08-20-2007, 03:38 PM
I loooooooooove men in kilts.

That Utilikily website is a little like soft core porn for me.

Knott. I have you to blame. DH is geting a Utilikilt for his b-day.

Maybe I should get DBF one for xmas, then again maybe not, he would never take it off and it gets quiet chilly here in the winter. ;)

Xrayted
08-20-2007, 04:42 PM
Hey, I agree with the group. I think Mr Silver should get a utilikilt. **whistles** Kit and I both have one and we love them. She got hers a few years ago at the Oregon Country Fair and I bought one there this year. Both black. It's on my Xmas list for another one in sage green. Mmmmmm... kilts. :D :D (this coming from a tomboy who refused to wear a dress or skirt since she was 6yo. :p)

As for the guys on the forum, welcome. All we ask is that you not get creepy, nasty or disrespectful. But we ask that of everyone. We are here to learn, teach, encourage, support and on occassion meet some really cool people who love to ride.

Mr. Bloom
08-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Can someone tell me what DH actually stands for? dumb husband?

...in my case, clearly NO:D

BUT, the profanity filter would not allow the real meaning to be posted:D

Wahine
08-20-2007, 05:43 PM
No.
It stands for David Hargrove.
Everyone goes places with David Hargrove and buys gifts for David Hargrove.
David Hargrove is a helluva guy.

Zen - you're terrible. :D But you make me laugh really hard, so what that make me then. Besides one of the many women here on the forum married to David Hargrove.:eek:

LBTC
08-20-2007, 07:04 PM
Who is David Hargrove? And when did I start dating him?

~T~

Zen
08-20-2007, 07:07 PM
;) I think I went to high school with a David Hargrove

Trek420
08-20-2007, 07:54 PM
This David Hargrove?

And now he'll google his name and we'll have yet another man on TE

www.olemiss.edu/depts/psychology/hargrove.html

Zen, then who is DGF? ;) :p

crazycanuck
08-20-2007, 08:54 PM
:eek: NO!

I'm sure someone loves that David hargrove...really...

C

Zen
08-20-2007, 09:28 PM
That is Donald George Fagen, I'd recognize him anywhere!

El Hombre
08-20-2007, 11:25 PM
Can someone tell me what DH actually stands for? dumb husband?

According to my better half, yes. But then again, her and I target shoot together. It's very common for her to have a handgun with 29rnds in it and me be 5 feet away unarmed. THAT'S a happy marriage:D

Christopher
08-20-2007, 11:48 PM
As for the guys on the forum, welcome. All we ask is that you not get creepy, nasty or disrespectful. But we ask that of everyone. We are here to learn, teach, encourage, support and on occassion meet some really cool people who love to ride.Quite. It is a womens' forum, after all. We all know there's plenty of other fora out there for male chest-beating.