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  1. #1
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    Good day ladies!

    I am looking into a cyclocross. It would be my secondary bike. So I did not want to pay more than necessary. If I could find a used one, it would still be ok. But not an old model.

    Husband has been digging the web for what could be good for me (he's looking for one for him too).

    So far, the only one I like for looks (I just cannot go dark again - My Amira SL4 is enough) is this one
    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-ca/...x/20488/80044/

    It will only be used while on vacation, and sometimes to do some gravel bike paths around.

    I'm just not sure about the derailleur as it is in Tiagra. Was always told it was not the best thing. I'm used now to Ultegra

    Front Derailleur - Shimano Tiagra
    Rear Derailleur - Shimano R350

    Anyone has experienced with a similar bike. Altough it seems new for 2015?

    Can we change it for at least at Shimano 105?

    Thank you.

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    The model of the derailleurs is probably of no consequence. What will feel different to you is the brifters, which are somewhat sneakily labeled R460, which is, I believe, Tiagra level. You can, I think, still get 105 shift levers in 10 speed, so they could be changed without having to change the whole drive train and would cost, probably, a little more than $200 for the parts. As far as I know Ultegra level components are now all 11 speed, so you'd have to find NOS to replace the levers with Ultegra.
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    Thank you.

    Yes my road bike is on Ultegra 11 speed.

    I do know it will totally be different and the purpose of this crossbike is for light gravel purposes. If we're going to ride some 100km (both on/off gravel/asphalt) I wanted something comfy - no flat bars. It won't be used daily either. I also realize that this cross bike is an entry level I think for this type.

    If I go with this bike, I will see with the bike shop to have it modified. I have not seen it, nor test-drived it. Not even sure they have arrived in our area. Wished my own bike shop that I loved carried Giant but they don't. But at least where hubby goes for spinning and bought his 1st Cervélo, they sell it. So good connection.

    Edited: what is NOS in your last sentence....sorry...my French kicked in and I just can't get that acronym. hihi

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    lol. NOS = New Old Stock, so somewhere out there on some dusty back shelf, there's probably a new Ultegra 10 speed brifter set that no one bought
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    Thank you.

    Read your comments to husband and he said if we are going to have to change too many things, we may as well start looking for something one notch higher with no modifs to make.

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    I do recall you prefer a stiffer frameset. Some comfy women's bikes have a lot of flex built into the design though thinner chain stays, etc. any idea about this bike? It definitely matters off-road, too. A sluggish bike over gravel is a pain.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

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    I don't know Muireen.

    I spoke to the owner of my LBS (the guy I liked). He said a Specialized Tricross would have been good but not carried anymore. He called them directly and stocks are all gone (for our heights anyway). He told me to look at the Crux on the Specialized site and get back to him with what we'd like and he'll do all he can to get a good price for our 2 bikes.

    I just don't know yet if I'm ready to put that much into secondary bikes.

    I know so little about bikes that I can gobble way too much without knowing. At least my LBS is pretty honest in the feeling I'd get on the road, and luckily, when he has a size in a bike I like, he lets me borrow it for a weekend so I can give it a long ride. Their service is so good that it would kill me to buy somewhere else. But I know too that they can't carry every singl brand on the market.

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    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

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    Just toooooo much. Love it, but that is way more pink than I could tolerate. hahahaha Thanks for sharing.

    Today we went to see my LBS. I knew it would be more than I wanted to pay for 2 bikes. But he is making us a deal that will be hard to refuse. But still much more than I want to pay. Normally I ride a 51cm (and hubby too) and he told us for that one it would be Crux Sport E5 for me and hubby would take the Sport E5 Evo. Same price anyway. Said I would think about it. In the end, we're nearing $5000 for 2 bikes, that are not going to be our prime bikes. I hate that they don't have any in stock. It's by order only. So not seen it, nor test-driven it. If he orders for us, we have to take them (I have not negociated that part just yet!). Not putting pressure as we don't know what we'll do. Lots of thinking. But because he knows us well, we can pay with a few cheques (like over 3-4 months) and still get the bikes now.

    Then we went to another store to take a look at some bikes. They had none in stock, no matter what manufacturer. It would need to be ordered. The man said in Europe, crossbike are THE thing. In North America, it's not catching although they are pushing for it. I believe him as no one carries any in stock.

    We then went to another store to look at some and saw 2 Cannondales. One is a modified CAADX disc on full shimano 105. The other is a synpase Alloy, modified too. This store makes us a good deal for $3,472(cdn). Reason too that costs are so high is that all bikes have increased a lot with the 30% dollar exchange with USA (I'm Canadian if you have not noticed hihi). So we end up paying a whole lot more lately for many purchases. Also, Caad would be shipped around May 12 and Synapse June 2....if not delayed. Colours are ok, but not the end of the world. Again...mostly blacks. arggggh But one could be with some red.

    Then we went to LBS where hubby bought his first road bike and goes to spinning. He looked through his manuals, order books, etc for Giant. Huge inventory shortage as Tawain reduced shipping production by 10%. So he's not even sure he would get one.

    So what we will do tomorrow is call a few Specialized stores around and see if they have one Crux in what we want to at least see "live". I just can't purchase a bike I have not seen and tried. Been burnt once...not going to be twice.

    At least all stores we visited were really knowledgeable and did not try to sell us stuff we did not want, no pushing and very accomodating since we were looking into purchasing 2 bikes.

    So the saga continues...tomorrow.

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    I have a CAADX. Wonderful, stiff frame that rides smooth with great power transfer. Mine is brushed aluminum. Cannondale makes amazing aluminum frameset's in the CAAD series. ( the synapses tend to have a lot more flex, my last road bike was a C'dales carbon Synapse). Going off-road with rocks, I prefer aluminum. It cleans up easily, doesn't rust, and I'm not worried about every little rock and stick hitting it as I would carbon.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

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    Here is my CAADX. It's a beautiful aluminum silver. Maybe you could get one from a year or two ago. This is the 105 drivetrain. It's a 2013 with cantilevers, which I upgrades to TRP's. Not sure what colors 2014 came in. Click image for larger version. 

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    That's the Atlantic Ocean inthe background. I rode it in saltwater then cleaned it in the bathers showers before putting it in my car. Great bike.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

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    Thank you for sharing.

    I will take a look for sure. Nothing to lose, but I certainly can take a look at savings.

    The CAAD he was telling me about would be modified so we could use it "off-road" some. Although, we know it won't be touching mud. haha

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    The CAADX is an off-road bike, so nothing has to be changed to go off pavement.

    Do you mean the bike he orders would have to be modified? Or that it comes already modified to go off road?

    C'dales also makes a CAAD 10 and a CAAD8. Both are road bikes. The 10 is an aggressive racing bike, and the 8 is more upright and meant for comfort. The geometry of the CAADX cyclocross is like the 8. More upright.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

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    I am not too sure Muireen. I'm in bed and my notes are downstairs. Would have to look it up as I can't recall the things on synapse and caad.... but i think it had to do with tires. We'd probably take those narrower than the 35 they come with. We don't intend to ride on mud, nor mountains, etc... it would be better than our current old hybrids for 100km rides through a mix of gravel and asphalt.

    Also, my husband was really impressed on how light both cannondale were for the type of bike.

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    The Synapse is a road bike, not a cyclocross. If they want to just convert road bikes to CX's setups, I wouldn't do it. CX's geometry is different. The bottom brackets are higher from the ground, for one, to avoid uneven obstructions and pedal strikes.i also use my CX's on pavement as a commuter and road bike with the tires that came on it. I don't see the necessity of changing for what you describe. 35's are comfy. The only reason would be to get something with a less aggressive tread, like the Schwalbe Big Apple, which are CX's tires made with less rolling resistance. But, again, I haven't needed to do that.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

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