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  1. #1
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    Looking for suggestions for similar saddle

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    Yesterday I went for a 19 mile ride on my new bike. At first the saddle was quite uncomfortable in the front area but toward the end of the ride it was tolerable and I sort of forgot about it. I'm not sure if the discomfort subsided or if I became numb to it. Other than that and the width, I really love the saddle. It is a Prologo Nago Evo X10. It's relatively flat (semi-round) and thin and rather firm. It has "active density" padding with a microfiber cover. The dimensions are 135 x 208 (per my tape measurer- this particular saddle doesn't show up on the Prologo website).

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    I tilted the nose down a bit after my first short test ride, and that helped a bit. I may tilt it down a bit more for my next ride. However, the pressure is not on my pubic bone, it is more of a squished feeling going on between my legs with some pinching every now and then.

    I figured the first thing to do would be to see if the manufacturer makes a female version. They do, but the shape appears a bit different. There is no cutout; instead, it has sort of a divit in the seat, which I think would be acceptable. I'm just not sure about the shape. Click image for larger version. 

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    They also make another "female" saddle that looks to have a decent shape: Click image for larger version. 

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    When I did the sit bones measurement and chart, it puts me right on the cusp of 145-155 seat. I can't remember my exact measurement...maybe 130-135? I like that this new seat is narrow, so I am more apt to lean toward a 145mm seat. I also did the chair test and determined from that that I don't necessarily need a cutout, although the Prologo is making me question that. I just finished reading through another thread on here from a few years ago about T-shaped saddles and I have a Ruby Pro that I am bidding on on ebay based on info from that thread.

    Anyways, what other saddles do you suggest that I look at?
    Last edited by Bones8; 11-23-2014 at 09:06 AM. Reason: pictures not showing right
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

  2. #2
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    Measuring a saddle gets a much smaller number than just looking at the manufacturer's measurements. It will give you a very inaccurate picture of what you need. What is your outside distance of your sit bones? I assume the 135 is your center to center?

    I wouldn't get the Ruby from Ebay if you aren't sure if it would work for you. Specialized takes returns for 30 days. The Specialized Toupe will be the same as the Ruby, and there are many styles and weights (padding thicknesses) to choose from. Plus, you can get one on sale at Specialized more easily in the mens/ (They are essentially unisex, just go by width).

    I used the Ruby for several years, also the Toupe. Didn't see a difference. I'm now using the Romin (men's version of the Oura). I believe the Romin is much longer. For the Romin, if you get the lower end one, it is a lot like a Ruby with a bigger cutout. The higher end Romins are curved in the rear. Which I like, but can be difficult if you are a newer cyclist or not used to a very minimal saddle.

    I don't know about the Pro logos. But a divet is something a lot of women like.
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  3. #3
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    Is this your Pro Logo?

    Looks like it's 135 X 280.

    The first female pro logo looks a little less pear-shaped, so less likely to cause chafing. At least from the picture.

    This is the version of Romin I'm thinking of. It is closer to the Ruby/Toupe than the regular Romins. (Evo Comp Gel Romin).

    I have this version on my old Le Monde bike. Got it because it was a lot less than the regular Romins. I have the Romin Expert on my main road bike. It's a lot more aggressive, made to be in the drops, for climbing, and is more minimal with a raised rear. Wouldn't suggest it unless you've been riding a minimal saddle already for a couple of years.
    Last edited by Muirenn; 11-23-2014 at 09:45 AM.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

    Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
    Specialized Romin Saddles

    Surly Krampus!

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    Yes, that's it. I typed my measurements wrong, I got 135 x 280 with the measuring tape so that matches up. 135 was the best center to center measurement I could get on my sit bones.

    I don't think I want a gel saddle. My other bike has the Liberator X Gel on it, which I really liked for a while (padding wise, not shape wise) but after yesterday's ride I prefer the firmer saddle, especially with the lower riding position. I don't know how it compares to the padding level designations Specialized uses; certainly not level 3 and I hesitate to say its even level 2. I will look some more at the Toupe and Romin. Do you know how the nose width compares on the Toupe v the Ruby?

    I'm not sure how I feel about nose length. I felt like the length of the Prologo was fine but I could certainly go a little shorter or longer with no problems. I just sat on the bike using the drops and I have about 55mm of nose in front of my last contact point with the saddle. What is the advantage of a longer nose? I really like the width of the nose compared to my Liberator saddle (43mm v 48mm). Does getting a bike with a channel or cutout generally result in a wider nose? I hope not! I know comparing the two saddles is apples and oranges but it's all I have to go by, other than my stock Bontrager saddle (super wide and cushy) that came on the Trek.
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

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    I outlined the first prologo saddle to show the shape better; it was kind of hard to see since it has white sides and the background is white.
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

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    The Romin Comp is definitely nothing like the squishy saddle you are picturing. It's very firm. Just slightly more padded than the Ruby. (Or even the same as the Ruby, they change the design every year). I can't use a saddle that is not very firm, yet it's fine.

    For Ruby vs Toupe, there are so many models of Toupe, and the designs change every year for both. The ones I had looked identical.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

    Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
    Specialized Romin Saddles

    Surly Krampus!

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    The Felt dealer that I got my bike at is also the local Specialized dealer so I will take a trip up there tomorrow and see what they have in stock for me to look at. Thanks for the suggestions!
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

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    I would have to call the Romin Comp a cross between the Romin and the Ruby. Shrug. Probably won't have one in stock, though.

    I'm assuming you are an experienced cyclist? If you do get the regular Romin or Oura, keep in mind that the rear of the saddle is higher than it's center, so you may have to have it slightly lower in the middle than you are accustomed to. I think my Ruby sits at 728 mm from center of crank to top of saddle, whereas the Romin is more like 722. (May be remembering wrong, but that is close). The Romin Comp is 728.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

    Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
    Specialized Romin Saddles

    Surly Krampus!

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    For some reason I'm the only one here who's comfortable on a Selle Italia Turbomatic. Maybe you can give me some company. In spite of the gel, it's not a super squishy saddle, probably comparable to a Ruby. Sounds like you might be comfortable on one of SI's Flite series, too, which are all very T-shaped and 145 mm in the rear. Some SI dealers have an array of test saddles, not their entire line, but some you could try.
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    I wouldn't say I'm "experienced." I mean, I've been riding a bike for as long as I can remember, but I've only just progressed past casual recreational rider to wanting to do something somewhat serious and ride regularly. My first attempt at competitive cycling will be a sprint duo in June, and I'm also hoping to start commuting via cycle in the spring. So, in the past few months I've been learning more and more about bikes, components, and technique than I ever bothered to in the past 20+ years. One simple thing that I am learning to do (and still forgetting about ugh) is just to wash my bike. I don't want the Felt to go to crap like my Trek did. Granted, my Trek has literally traveled around the world with me and been good to me despite how I've treated it.

    OakLeaf-
    I did read about the Turbomatic a bit on the old T-shaped saddle thread and you are right, it does not get a lot of love on here. While I am convinced I want a flat saddle, I suppose I would not be sure I don't like something like the Turbomatic unless I try it right? I am looking up the nearest SI dealer now. In any case, the Flite saddles look really nice!
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

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    I picked up a Ruby Expert and 90mm stem at the lbs. The test ride is tomorrow *fingers crossed*
    2007 Trek 7.2 FX
    2015 Felt F85X with Specialized Oura seat, Specialized Road Pro II handlebars, and Look Quartz pedals

 

 

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