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    Tires?

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    Can anyone recommend a good cross tire (35 x 700c) that will have a little less rolling resistance on the pavement, but still work well off-road? (Small steep hills with lots of roots thorugh a dune forest).

    I currently have Sammy Slicks on my CAADX. http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Sammy...ds=sammy+slick. Really perfect for off-road, but I also use the CAADX to commute, and sometimes it's a bit too much of a workout when I'm just trying to get from point A to point B.

    I prefer Continental. Maybe the Race?

    http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Cy...+mm+cyclocross.

    Looks like there are a lot of options, like the Cyclocross plus Urban,

    http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Cy...WFPDCR0T6E0E7W

    Hard to tell though. (Doesn't have to be Continental, I just really like the ones I've used on my road bikes. GP 4000s's.
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    I used the Challenge "Gravel Grinders" (38mm) on my cross bike for Rebecca's Private Idaho (lot's of washboard and gravel) and liked them. Challenge also makes the "Chicane" in 33mm. Both have file threads in the middle and knobs on the side for grip when you are turning. Both are nice tires, with a high TPI count.

    There is also Clement Cycling, with the LAS. On the economical end of the spectrum (lower TPI), Kenda Happy Mediums.

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    Around here Clements are king. I've used the PDX and MDX and love them both. They're 33s...BUT they really appear wider than that. We've had plenty of CX races with slippery rooty bits and these things grip well. Not sure about rolling resistance. I don't know that a tire that's good on roots won't also be a bit sloggy on pavement, especially if you lower your pressure for the off-road bits.
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    This thread makes me realize that I need an inexpensive set of wheels to change out. I assume I can use something like a 28 mm or so tire (similar to a Continental 4 season) with a different wheel for convience. (Yeah, I don't know much about wheels and tires). Or do I have to stay with wider tires?

    These look promising. What do you think?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1J160NEEMK233
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
    Around here Clements are king. I've used the PDX and MDX and love them both. They're 33s...BUT they really appear wider than that. We've had plenty of CX races with slippery rooty bits and these things grip well. Not sure about rolling resistance. I don't know that a tire that's good on roots won't also be a bit sloggy on pavement, especially if you lower your pressure for the off-road bits.
    I use the Clement PDX for cross, as the 'all conditions' type of tire -- they can handle some mud without being mud specific. File threads like the Chicane, Gravel Grinder or the Happy Medium are the way to go if you worry about rolling resistance. The thread count makes the Challenge ones nicer to ride with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    This thread makes me realize that I need an inexpensive set of wheels to change out. I assume I can use something like a 28 mm or so tire (similar to a Continental 4 season) with a different wheel for convience. (Yeah, I don't know much about wheels and tires). Or do I have to stay with wider tires?

    These look promising. What do you think?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1J160NEEMK233
    Why the extra set of wheels? Just to have different tire threads on them? A good wheelset with supple tires makes your ride much nicer (and that is why we ride, no?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    Can anyone recommend a good cross tire (35 x 700c) that will have a little less rolling resistance on the pavement, but still work well off-road? (Small steep hills with lots of roots thorugh a dune forest).

    I currently have Sammy Slicks on my CAADX. http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Sammy...ds=sammy+slick. Really perfect for off-road, but I also use the CAADX to commute, and sometimes it's a bit too much of a workout when I'm just trying to get from point A to point B.

    I prefer Continental. Maybe the Race?

    http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Cy...+mm+cyclocross.

    Looks like there are a lot of options, like the Cyclocross plus Urban,

    http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Cy...WFPDCR0T6E0E7W

    Hard to tell though. (Doesn't have to be Continental, I just really like the ones I've used on my road bikes. GP 4000s's.
    My bike originally came with the Conti Cyclocross Race tires, and they kept 'shedding' threads from day 1. They wore out pretty fast, surprisingly (10 cross races...). I swapped them at the end of the season.

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    Guess I won't get the Conti cy races, then! (could have been a defective set. STill).

    I was thinking of wheels with slicker tires for convenience, because, yes, I can't imagine whatever I get for the road will be good for the forest. Forest, sounds cool, huh?

    I checked out the Gravel Grinders, the review said it can be hard to transition from going in a straight line to turning, that sometimes control was lost. I have to go down a 360 degree exit ramp to get to work, so it's steep with a sharp lean. Plus, I have gear on my bike for commuting. Does that sound like a problem for these tires? The ramp exits from a fairly high bridge.
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    I have not used them hauling gear (other than a camelbak on training rides), but the turn issue would depend on how aggressive you are at the turn. A friend of mine has raced the Gravel Grinders and the Chicanes and loves them.

    Another tire that people recommend for off road, mixed conditions is the Clement X'Plor MSO.

    The Contis are knobbier than either of the tires I suggested, for muddier courses.

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    PLL: I know that this is an older thread, but wanted to ask you a question about the Gravel Grinder tires. It seems that some of you may think they are hard to go from a straight line to turning. would that anything to do with whether you "steer" into a turn or "lean" into a turn? I'm getting ready to either buy a cyclocross bike or a 29er, and have been looking at tires myself. Although I've been riding gravel since I was a child, it was always on a mtn bike. Thanks for your help or suggestions!

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    By now I have used the gravel grinders on a couple of long gravel rides (over 90 miles each time), and many miles in training for those long rides. I like them a lot, not a single flat. For cross, I am still riding the Clement PDX -- the Clement are wider than what CX rules allow and my PDXs are not worn down.

    Here's a couple of reviews:
    http://ridinggravel.com/gravel-news/...er-38mm-tires/
    http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3245

    Tire pressure is also important for grip, so play with it. For rides where there will be lots of rocks, I keep tire pressure on the high end, 40psi (I weigh ~130lbs), but I have gone as low as 26psi on the front, 28psi on the rear for a muddy course. Then you need to be light on your bike when you go over bumps.

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    Thanks for the info pll! I always play with air pressure, but a good reminder for sure. I guess I'll just have to get a bike and go from there.

 

 

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