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  1. #46
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    Skierchickie - I was in the similar boat like you were. I had the Bontrager Affinity. When I first started cycling nearly two years ago, I had the Terry Butterfly Ti with the cutout on it. It was comfortable for a long while, but then when I started to change my bike into a little more aggressive position (raising the seat, lowering the handlebars, etc), sitting on the saddle seems to get more uncomfortable. It seems that when I'm in more upright, the saddle is perfect, but once I go in the drops or more tight position, my sit bones seems to kind of slide off to the side slightly.

    After a long while, I decided that it's time to start saddle trials. Bontrager was the first I tried. It wasn't bad. Felt comfortable for certain amount of time, then I start to fidget. The width of the saddle was perfect. After a few more rides, I realized that the sides of it is a little too sharp for me (got a big butt), and the indentation on the back part was bothering me really bad. Returned the saddle and now I'm testing the SI Diva. In a small way, I wished I did the research before buying because it turned out to be a lot more money at the LBS than online...however, this LBS has given me so much free service (free adjustments, free fitting, and little free stuff) even though I didn't buy the bike from them. So, I think it's fair.

    When I sat on it for the first time, I was already SO comfortable! I'm looking forward for my first ride with it tomorrow. Did you ever think about trying Selle Italia Lady Gel Flow (cutouts), or the Diva? A few of my women cycling friends swears on Selle Italia's products...and they're long distance cyclists.

    I'm hoping that the money that I shelled out on this saddle will be worth it and thousands of miles...and for my first century.

    Good luck!

  2. #47
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    Returned the Inform last week. The Affinity I'm trying is a lot better, but haven't ridden a lot of times since putting it on. Did a 58 miler a week ago. Got quite uncomfortable on one side, and leveled it a little 1/2-way through the ride. Seemed a lot better, but the damage was done, so to speak. Tweaked the tilt part-way back again, but haven't ridden it since.

    CyborgQueen: I haven't seen the SI saddles in person, so haven't really considered them. Not sure about the cutouts - none of the Terry saddles I tried with cut-outs worked for me. Maybe I'll see something when I'm downstate soon. Unfortunately, $$$ is an object at the moment. Still rooting for the Affinity, anyway. Maybe I need to avoid women's saddles, because in all my trials, the men's models have been the best.
    The Warrior Princess: 2008 Jamis Xenith Pro / Bontrager Affinity 1 (men's)
    2006 Trek Fuel EX 9 / Bontrager Race Luxe
    2007 Trek 520 / Serfas Terazzo
    Amelia Pond (She travels long distances, has great adventures, and she's a redhead): 2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 / Bontrager Affinity 2 (men's)

  3. #48
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    Reviving this thread to say that I am kicking myself for not having tried this saddle a VERY LONG time ago! Ugh! But I'm glad I have it, now. I picked one up on eBay for $30 and figured it was worth a shot. Oh, I think it's worth every penny!

    I have only done a 10 mile trainer ride, but saddles always feel worse on the trainer than they do on the road and this saddle felt actually pretty good on the trainer. During my ride I noticed that my sit bones hurt a little, for a change. Up front I had minimal pressure and ZERO chafing. Chafing has been the big deal-breaker with pretty much every saddle I've tried.

    I had previously tried the Affinity on my road bike, but didn't love it. Though it works great on my CX bike, which has me positioned a bit more upright. I always thought the Inform looked too pear-shaped, which is what kept me from trying it earlier, but it doesn't actually feel that way when I'm on it, which surprised me.

    I'm really looking forward to the roads being cleaner and warmer for a good outdoor ride on this saddle!
    Kirsten
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    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

  4. #49
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    I got to put the new saddle through it's paces on Sat. during an indoor cycling event to raise money for Livestrong. I rode a total of 3 hours and the only thing that was an issue was the alignment where PI shorts seams and saddle disagree a bit. Today I did a brief ride with a pair of Shebeest S-Pros that I LOVE, but the seams on those were becoming destroyed by the edges of my previous SSM saddle. Interestingly, the Bontrager saddle and the Shebeest shorts seem to be much more compatible (no seams in contact with the saddle, as far as I can tell), which is awesome, since I prefer the Shebeest shorts!
    Kirsten
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    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

  5. #50
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    I tend to favor a T-shaped saddle. I have the Jett though I find that I get pushed forward quite a bit, no chafing though. The cut out is so small that I don't think it even counts on the Jett. The SSM Aspide cut up the back of my legs pretty badly. I am looking at the Bontrager inForm RL WSD 2010, my sit bones are 135 center to center. Not sure if I should go with the 140 or 150 size. Also the trek site only has the 2010 saddle? Should I look for a more recent design?
    Last edited by SarahMN; 03-15-2012 at 07:41 AM.

  6. #51
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    I think the Inform is being phased out. They're all on clearance at my LBS.

    - Gray Trek Madone 4.7 road bike, mystery crack in top tube repaired by Calfee, Bontrager Affinity RXL saddle
    - Red Trek 6000 mountain bike, Bontrager Evoke WSD saddle

    Gone but not forgotten:
    - Silver Trek 2000 road bike
    - Two awesome and worn out Juliana saddles

  7. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    I think the Inform is being phased out. They're all on clearance at my LBS.
    Wha...NO!!! All Inform models? Just certain ones? They can't discontinue the only saddle that works for me!
    Kirsten
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    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

  8. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
    Wha...NO!!! All Inform models? Just certain ones? They can't discontinue the only saddle that works for me!
    Take advantage of clearance prices and stock up! Another option is ebay -- bike gear tends to remain on there for way longer than it does in LBS's.
    Emily

    2011 Jamis Dakar XC "Toto" - Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flow
    2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 WSD "Gloria" - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
    2004 Bike Friday Petite Pocket Crusoe - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow

  9. #54
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    The Bontrager website still shows the WSD RL version, but not the R or RXL. My LBS has not gotten any new ones in stock in over a year.

    You might want to contact Bontrager and ask them what's up.

    - Gray Trek Madone 4.7 road bike, mystery crack in top tube repaired by Calfee, Bontrager Affinity RXL saddle
    - Red Trek 6000 mountain bike, Bontrager Evoke WSD saddle

    Gone but not forgotten:
    - Silver Trek 2000 road bike
    - Two awesome and worn out Juliana saddles

  10. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    The Bontrager website still shows the WSD RL version, but not the R or RXL. My LBS has not gotten any new ones in stock in over a year.

    You might want to contact Bontrager and ask them what's up.
    That is really odd. And I like my Affinity on my CX bike, but on my more aggressive road bike that dent is not deep enough. The Inform is much better.
    Kirsten
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    zoomylicious


    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

  11. #56
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    I might have to check this saddle out. My fitting put me in a much more aggressive position than I am used to, and PAIN is the result. I'm not 100% sure it wasn't the shorts, but I'm resigning myself to the fact that I may have to buy a new saddle.

    What year is yours, Zoom? And does anyone know what, if any, the differences are between the 2010 and 2009 versions? The 2010 is still 109. The 2009 is $24.99. The only difference I can see is the rail material (Ti vs steel.)
    At least I don't leave slime trails.
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  12. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlie View Post
    What year is yours, Zoom? And does anyone know what, if any, the differences are between the 2010 and 2009 versions? The 2010 is still 109. The 2009 is $24.99. The only difference I can see is the rail material (Ti vs steel.)
    You know, I wish I knew what year mine is. I think I threw out the packaging. The saddle has blue swirly design...looks just like the ones I see on their site, but those are black swirls. I think mine has steel rails (but I'm not positive).
    Kirsten
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    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
    You know, I wish I knew what year mine is. I think I threw out the packaging. The saddle has blue swirly design...looks just like the ones I see on their site, but those are black swirls. I think mine has steel rails (but I'm not positive).
    2009: http://store.trekbikes.com/jump.jsp?...2C4%2C15%2C430

    2010:
    http://store.trekbikes.com/jump.jsp?...ProductID=2521
    I have a feeling that the swirl color varies, depending on the width of the saddle...Though that would mean that if it was a 2010, they would be green..

    Apparently they both have steel rails...I swear I was looking at something that said one has Ti...
    Oh. Their own product page is confused. http://bontrager.com/model/09441. The part description says Ti, the product description says steel. Geez.
    Last edited by Owlie; 03-26-2012 at 07:30 PM.
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  14. #59
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    Hmmm...they look the same. I wonder if there is any marked difference, other than cosmetic...?
    Kirsten
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    '11 Cannondale SuperSix 4 Rival
    '12 Salsa Mukluk 3
    '14 Seven Mudhoney S Ti/disc/Di2

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
    Hmmm...they look the same. I wonder if there is any marked difference, other than cosmetic...?
    Given the reputation that Bontrager saddles have had in the past, I'd really like to know!
    At least I don't leave slime trails.
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