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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heifzilla View Post
    The quill pedals...are they supposed to be good with a soft-soled shoe? They don't seem to be as large as those BMX pedals. I usually ride in gym shoes, but I did just order Keen Commuters.
    If you do long rides on quill pedals in soft soled shoes, you start feeling the vertical plates of the pedal after awhile. Of course, it depends on the shoe to some extent. A softer shoe will slip less on the pedal, but your feet will feel it more. I remember the old days of getting grooves in my sneakers from quill pedals. But when you tightened the toe straps, they did hold you in fairly effectively. Racers wore rigid soled cleated shoes with quill pedals and clips+straps. The cleat was a grooved metal plate that was nailed on the shoe and held your foot securely when the strap was tightened. Of course, you couldn't removed your foot from the pedal until you reached down and loosened the strap. [And people complain about clipless systems?!?!] With the old shoes, you rode them without the cleat until the pedal left a mark on the shoe, then you went to a cobbler and had the cleat tacked on 1/8" forward of the mark (so your toes weren't pressed against the toe clip). There were also some uncleated riding shoes that were basically sneakers with stiffeners in the sole of the forefoot to make the quill pedals more comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebW View Post
    If you do long rides on quill pedals in soft soled shoes, you start feeling the vertical plates of the pedal after awhile. Of course, it depends on the shoe to some extent. A softer shoe will slip less on the pedal, but your feet will feel it more. I remember the old days of getting grooves in my sneakers from quill pedals. But when you tightened the toe straps, they did hold you in fairly effectively. Racers wore rigid soled cleated shoes with quill pedals and clips+straps. The cleat was a grooved metal plate that was nailed on the shoe and held your foot securely when the strap was tightened. Of course, you couldn't removed your foot from the pedal until you reached down and loosened the strap. [And people complain about clipless systems?!?!] With the old shoes, you rode them without the cleat until the pedal left a mark on the shoe, then you went to a cobbler and had the cleat tacked on 1/8" forward of the mark (so your toes weren't pressed against the toe clip). There were also some uncleated riding shoes that were basically sneakers with stiffeners in the sole of the forefoot to make the quill pedals more comfortable.

    That's your history lesson for today, kid.
    I am imagining the wipeouts as people got tangled in their bikes because they couldn't get their feet loose
    "A bicycle does get you there and more. And there is always the thin edge of danger to keep you alert and comfortably apprehensive. Dogs become dogs again and snap at your raincoat; potholes become personal. And getting there is all the fun."

  3. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heifzilla View Post
    I am imagining the wipeouts as people got tangled in their bikes because they couldn't get their feet loose
    Yes, I too cannot imagine tying one's self to the bike like that.
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    You'd just leave one strap loose until you got past the last stop sign in town.

    Remember back in those days we used to have to reach down! to SHIFT! as well, so we were used to taking our hands off the bars. Straps had a quick-release, so it only took a fraction of a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heifzilla View Post
    I am imagining the wipeouts as people got tangled in their bikes because they couldn't get their feet loose
    There were more people who could do track stands in those days. Unfortunately, I never learned. But I only fell over once due to forgetting to loosen the toe strap.
    Oil is good, grease is better.

    2007 Peter Mooney w/S&S couplers/Terry Butterfly
    1993 Bridgestone MB-3/Avocet O2 Air 40W
    1980 Columbus Frame with 1970 Campy parts
    1954 Raleigh 3-speed/Brooks B72

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    It should have an indicator whether its left or right on every bike pedal..

  7. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebW View Post
    There were more people who could do track stands in those days. Unfortunately, I never learned. But I only fell over once due to forgetting to loosen the toe strap.
    Tell us your FU (failure to unclip) fall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    Tell us your FU (failure to unclip) fall!
    From 2009? I don't recall.
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