I'm with you on the "less lycra look" for commuting. I ride in baggy MTB shorts most days.
As for those Zoic knicks: I tried them on at my LBS and really liked them. I liked the chamois and the length on them was perfect. Unfortunately, I was feeling cheap that day, didn't buy them, and now they don't have my size anymore IIRC, these are a little bit lower-rise compared to some other shorts and knickers that I've tried. It didn't bother me, but it's something to consider....