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So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.
Battswebb
Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
Specialized Romin Saddles
Surly Karate Monkey!!!
Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler
Last edited by Trek420; 01-07-2013 at 12:07 PM.
Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
Found on the road ~ Motobecane Mixte
N+1 new bike ~ Salsa Vaya
Commuter ~ Soma Buena Vista Mixte
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I didn't see that either until after Oak pointed it out.![]()
So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.
Battswebb
Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
Specialized Romin Saddles
Surly Karate Monkey!!!
Hi Sheila, Sorry to be a spook - yes, I am an occasional lurker here, mostly because of the high-quality problem solving demonstrated by this group of smart women not afraid to discuss the details that really matter. I've avoided posting until now, out of respect and also in order not to disturb the cooperative spirit here, which I think could be partly the result of a (virtually) women-only environment. I'm only posting now because Trek420 graciously invited me to do so; I hope it's okay. This is my second post. My first post is introducing myself in the "Getting to know you" thread.
Even the percentile of men and women being such and such a width. I've linked to that discussion many times for people here. That is the thread where someone placed the coins on a saddle and took a picture. Really great discussion. And play-doh, huh? Wonder whose idea that was?![]()
I agree, the stats on sit bone width are a nice reference. I guess we used the same database. Is the play-doh technique yours? If so please let me know how you'd like to be named and I'll revise the article to give proper credit, as I did for the Cutout Test after Knott called me on the phone. I had PMed her but not in time for her to see it, so I was really happy to hear from her and be able to use her real name in giving credit for the test!
Agreed, and as OakLeaf mentioned, maybe you'd like to add that as a comment on the article? I'm aware of that concept, which is why I wrote: "...equal or greater than the center-to-center spacing between your sit bones, plus about 1 centimeter on each side."The point of taking center to center and adding 2 centimeters to get saddle width is a problem, though. My center to center is 118, and yet my outside distance is around 155. I can't use a saddle more narrow than 150, and wider is better. Yet this puts me on a 138. That needs a caveat.
And "Saddle width >= sit bone spacing + 2cm" (emphasis added).
What do you think?
Respectfully,
Damon Rinard
Last edited by damon_rinard; 01-11-2013 at 06:15 AM.
Hi OakLeaf,
Thanks for pointing out that we gave Knott credit. I looked into the link, which I thought was in the article, and it is - the words "The cutout test" are hyperlinked to the individual post Knott made. But the web page style simply changes the color of the linked text to red, which doesn't stand out enough to be an obvious link. So we're editing the article now to specifically give the link, and in a more obvious way. Thanks for mentioning that!
Respecfully,
Damon Rinard
Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
Found on the road ~ Motobecane Mixte
N+1 new bike ~ Salsa Vaya
Commuter ~ Soma Buena Vista Mixte
http://madeinusareviews.blogspot.com/
hello everybody, my first post apart from getting to know detail. so I am the proud owner of a whole garage full of saddles, not cheap ones, but I am not getting it right, so maybe somebody here will have ideas.
so ive been riding quite comfortably on spez avatar 155 for years, until I started riding a bit more aggressively, from thereon they are to cushy and caused chaving. Got sella italia slr (ladies one) but think its too narrow, chaving again. Spez ruby okay for up to 3 hour rides then same thing, and I find the saddle flexes too much to my liking.
now this is the thing, went for bike fit on my new stumpy fsr, the guy sold me a fizik arione donna, and whalla, no chaving!! but.... it squashes other tender bits badly. I tried to make it work, drop front a bit etc but no. apart from that the best saddle ever though. so where can I get something with that shape but a cut out or deeper indentation?
Since you liked the avatar, I suggest trying the Specialized Toupe in a 155. If that doesn't let you ride agressively enough, try the Romin. You can use the women's equivalents (Ruby and Oura), but I see little difference, except the high end women's correlate to the 'expert' cheaper men's in style. But the men's cost less. Plus, more choices in men's.
(I've used Ruby's and Toupes for years, and currently love the Romin).
If you don't like those, you could try an SMP. But those are super pricey, and may not be necessary. Plus, they are sized quite differently.
So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.
Battswebb
Pinarello Quattro~CAADX~ Zurich Lemond
Specialized Romin Saddles
Surly Karate Monkey!!!
I ride the Rivet Independence which is very similar in shape - is leather without any padding so no squash anywhere! We sell them so i attached the link
160mm X 280mm
Sky King
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SkyKing - I just purchased 2 Rivet Saddles, the Pearl and Independence but haven't tried either of them yet. How do they compare in comfort (for you) to Brooks + Brooks Imperial?
Scrappy
I have the Independence on my Gilles Berthoud and Pearl (Cromo) on my Surly ECR. I had the Rivet Pearl TI on my Rivendell. I never liked the Brooks B17 for me. I sorta liked the Brooks Imperial however the "fenders" - the long sides on the Brooks saddles make my upper leg and lower Glutes go numb after about 35 miles, that doesn't happen with the Rivets. The Independence's long narrow nose took a bit of getting used to but now I like it - I only have about 300 miles on the Independence. Let me know what you think!
Sky King
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I *really* like my new-to-me Rivet Pearl Ti -- hi SkyKing!-- even more than my previous fave Brooks Team Pro, which, for me, is more comfy than the Brooks B17.
The Rivet Pearl is da bomb.![]()
2009 Lynskey R230 Houseblend - Brooks Team Pro
2007 Rivendell Bleriot - Rivet Pearl
Cindy K, I know this is an older post and you might not see this, but did you ever find out what those hard lumps were? I've gotten them also. The first time was on a beach vacation where we rented cruisers to ride on the sand - no cutout and absolute agony. Since then, the lumps show up periodically on rides of more than 25 miles on my regular pretty-good saddle. Just wondered if you still get them and if you were able to find a solution. Thanks!