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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina View Post
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    "this may be the world’s only jersey with an integrated tramp-stamp"

    It's this quote that bugs me. I don't have a tattoo, but getting one doesn't automatically make you a tramp.

    What about piercings, other than ears? Do those make you a tramp?

    And what exactly is a tramp these days?

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    Tramp Stamp is the common vernacular for these lower back tattoos.
    Sometimes, depending on the design, known as Butt Horns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zencentury View Post
    Tramp Stamp is the common vernacular for these lower back tattoos.
    Sometimes, depending on the design, known as Butt Horns.
    I know how the words are used. It's still a derogatory term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zencentury View Post
    A tuxedo is dignified.
    There is a niche for a bridal jersey but this one could use a bit of modification.
    I thought the jersey was funny, kind of an affectionate jab at weddings and could have it's place with riders with a sense of humor. I had not noticed the tat till now.

    But I wonder why the so called "tramp stamp" is being pulled over by the cycling fashion police but nobody objects to these arm warmers

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    Is it that tats on men are cool, on women it's objectionable?

    Have fun, ride in costume sometime. We don't all have to wear (or even have) classic wool and matching in coolness factor socks.

    And where is the LBS that sells the sets of ill fitting, rediculous styled, unflattering, salmon and aqua colored matching bridesmaid jerseys with butt bow and puffy sleeves?
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    and OOOH! they have dragon tattoo socks! I WANT those

    Just perfect for those of us who want to look briefly cool and interesting but are way too chicken to get the real thing.

    btw I thought the jersey was 'orrible, but I thought that was sort of the point. Very funny, though.
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    I always liked that jersey. I wouldn't buy it but I thought it was funny and if I was biking at my wedding, I just might have.
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    I think the jersey is pretty hysterical, although I wouldn't spend my hard earned money on it... If I had a gift certificate, though.... maybe.

    The sleeves are great! Those I might acutally buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    Is it that tats on men are cool, on women it's objectionable?
    uh, at the risk of being in the minority here, I think it's that a design intended to lead the viewer's eyes into the tatt-ee's pants is exhibitionist, to say the least.

    I don't have a problem with those tatts, but I definitely think they're overtly sexual in a way that most men's tatts are not. A few, but not most.

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    Put this one into the "give customers what they ask for" category.

    The bRide2B jersey was one of our most requested Primal Jerseys of 2007, usually in tandem with the men's Ritz jersey (a faux tuxedo jersey which we are currently out of stock in.)

    What I've learned in 10 years of being in this business is that we can't carry only what WE personally might like, but rather we need to carry a selection of what people want to wear. While my gut is usually correct (ie. if I hate it but buy it anyway, it usually doesn't sell well), there have been many pieces that I found hideous which actually sold quite well.

    Far be it for me to be an arbiter of fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    It's this quote that bugs me. I don't have a tattoo, but getting one doesn't automatically make you a tramp.
    What about piercings, other than ears? Do those make you a tramp?
    And what exactly is a tramp these days?
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    I personally think the term "tramp" has become so overused as to be practically meaningless these days. I even hear teenagers calling each other "tramp" in a joking way with each other. It seems it's a term that's gone mainstream, and I just can't get worked up about it like I might have 15 years ago.
    Hey, at least it's still way less offensive than the term "ho".

    uh, at the risk of being in the minority here, I think it's that a design intended to lead the viewer's eyes into the tatt-ee's pants is exhibitionist, to say the least.
    All tattoos are exhibitionist, that's part of what makes tattoos intriguing and fascinating. They are "exhibited", -intended to be seen on the skin (either by the general public or by a private viewer).

    I don't have a problem with those tatts, but I definitely think they're overtly sexual in a way that most men's tatts are not. A few, but not most.
    People decide how sexual/sensual or non-sexual/sensual their tattoo designs are going to be. Everyone likes different things. People expose more or less areas of skin, tattooed or not. There are limits in our society- such as you can't walk around with your genitals exposed, tattooed or not! :-D I find it all fascinating, but never offensive.
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    I kinda like that jersey, and have been tempted several times to buy it... and I'm a big ol' d*ke. It's over-the-top funny, even the "tramp stamp."
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    Wink

    Ha, at least it is not black or dark colored... I don't understand, why people get so worked up about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post



    All tattoos are exhibitionist, that's part of what makes tattoos intriguing and fascinating. They are "exhibited", -intended to be seen on the skin (either by the general public or by a private viewer).

    By that standard, jewelery and clothing are exhibitionist.
    There are jeans and then there are jeans cut so low the wearers undergarments are exposed.

    A tattoo on the lower back says look at my butt. A small tattoo on the ankle
    may attract the eye to the ankle but unless this is 1890 it's doesn't carry with it sexual undertones.

    I just forgot my original intention of this post.
    It's been a rough couple of days...
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    What's wrong with sexual undertones?

    Just because someone wants to make themselves look sexy does not them make a tramp.

    It's a stereotype, pigeonholing someone because of one attribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zencentury View Post
    By that standard, jewelery and clothing are exhibitionist.
    Indeed, and they are, in many ways! As are hairstyles and makeup and nail polish, even cars, etc. My point is that exhibitionism isn't inherently "bad".

    There are jeans and then there are jeans cut so low the wearers undergarments are exposed.
    Well I personally have no problem with getting a glimpse of someone's undergarments...as long as they aren't grossly dirty. As to jeans that hang down off the butt, well I just laugh. They look pretty silly trying to walk with their legs apart. 20 years from now their kids will be laughing at the old photos of their parents.

    A tattoo on the lower back says look at my butt. A small tattoo on the ankle
    may attract the eye to the ankle but unless this is 1890 it's doesn't carry with it sexual undertones.
    They all are calculated to make us notice the beautiful curves of the human body in some way, and nothing wrong with that I think. And yes, an ankle tattoo can absolutely carry sexual overtones, especially if it's creative!

    I just forgot my original intention of this post.
    It's been a rough couple of days...
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