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  1. #31
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    18 K!! in 2:03 ... with an average HR of 160. I know... Someone with a W will frown but I felt really comfortable.

    I made jogging playlist for my ipod, plugged it in and just went as far as I felt like. The only discomfort I had was in my hips.

    phew.... went to town shopping and back... hobbling along. My legs are just a tad tired....
    Last edited by alpinerabbit; 01-20-2007 at 06:14 AM.
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  2. #32
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    New Shoes here too (again)!

    Finally did the sensible thing and got myself to a running shop to have my gait analysed!

    I seem to have fallen out of love with my Nike Structure Triax (I've always run in stability shoes - not entirely sure why) even the new ones feel really harsh to run in. So I dragged the old one out and had a look at the wear on them and it was all on the outside of the shoe (bad bad bad) particularly the left which might explain why my upper outer calf muscle (whatever its called) is so grumpy as its having to do a hell of a lot of work. The Nike were great when I was beginning but the longer runs are showing up the problems.

    Off I trundled to a running shop taking my old shoes with me - the guy looked at them and shook his head and asked me where I got fitted for them - erm nowhere I sheepishly replied . He put me in a pair of completely neutral shoes (Pegasus) and had me run on the treadmill while they videoed my feet. I felt the Pegasus were lovely, bit squishy but much nicer than the triax. Turns out I have a completely neutral running style and have been running in the wrong shoes for the last year or so (well forever actually). The stability features were forcing me onto the outside of my foot and probably contributed a lot to my ankle sprain as well

    So after trying lots of shoes on (which suprisingly I could actually tell the difference between) I now have a very shiny pair of Mizuno Wave Riders to run in - it felt like I was floating when I put them on.

    Moral of the story: the wrong shoes really will hurt (why do I insist on doing everything the hard way?).

    Will be giving them a spin on Tuesday - fingers crossed they help!

  3. #33
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    KSH - I sometimes have the same problem with underarm chaffing, but mine is based on what Sports bra and shirt I wear. Some just rub me wrong, literally!! Body glide does help. Wish I could say it was because of my fantastic lats!

    As far as running goes, I've been trying to get in some short runs this week. Sunday I did a 1.75 mile prebike run. Tuesday I got all bundled up against the freezing cold and did 3.7miles. I think the cold just slows me down, as I didn't know I could run consistently and be that slow. And I didn't feel that slow! I went for another un Friday, did 3.2 miles with some easy intervals (and yes, I know easy and intervals do not go together), but my HR just does not want to come up right now. I acually thought for the first 15 minutes that my HR monitor was broken, it was reading so low.

    I have a brick planned for today, and a friend of mine is wanting to start running again, so I may be going out to run with her after that. Running twice in one day, didn't think I would ever do that!

  4. #34
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    10 miles for me this morning -- the first six with a friend and the last four by myself. It was windy and cold, but I had some pent-up work-related frustrations to get rid of, and it felt wonderful to get outside and just go. I'm tired now, but don't feel as frustrated.

    Run on ladies!

    KB

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    18 K!! in 2:03 ... with an average HR of 160. I know... Someone with a W will frown but I felt really comfortable.

    I made jogging playlist for my ipod, plugged it in and just went as far as I felt like. The only discomfort I had was in my hips.

    phew.... went to town shopping and back... hobbling along. My legs are just a tad tired....


    Well, if you felt good you're OK. Just don't whine tomorrow or the next week if you don't recover well or you'll get a big fat I told you so!!

    I went cross country skiing today instead of running. It was fabulous. New snow, icicles dripping off the ends of pine needles, scattered cloud and sun sparkling on the trees and snow. Mt. Adams was impressive with his perfect coat of white, dominating the horizon like a stern father.

    Thank god I finally got outside. I would have gone crazy if I had to do one more TM run.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    18 K!! in 2:03 ... with an average HR of 160. I know... Someone with a W will frown but I felt really comfortable.
    Not sure what you meant by this? 160 is a normal working heart rate for me, I can still breathe through my nose at 160. If its too high then I'm snookered!

    Nice going on the 18K!

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    Wow, what a great run this morning! It was about 30F and not too windy thankfully, The Boy was home for the weekend from CO so we went for a run. Did 2 miles out with a quick walk and then 2 miles back. Felt really good the entire time, and it felt great to have someone to run with and talk to the entire time! It really is true what that article I read on some website said the other day, that running really gets the conversation juices flowing!

    So that makes it a 10ish mile week for me, and 4 miles was my longest run ever!! I have that great after-run thing going on (and it doesn't hurt that The Boy is making us a yummy breakfast of eggs in the kitchen right now!!)

    K.

  8. #38
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    Ran about 1/4 mile again this morning. No knee pain! (knock wood)

    But a seagull pooped on me. Iiiiiiccccky.
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    3.5 for me this morning, 21 degrees, but nice in the woods.

    Followed that up with a mt bike ride, not my finest moment, but I was off the bike for two weeks with a neck thing, so I have to get my bike legs back, and it was frickin' cold.

    Home, warm in my flannels now...ahhhhhh

    oh and bird poop is good luck right, or is that just what they tell you to make you feel better after you have been pooped on?

  10. #40
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    Good job on your longest run, Kimmy! Way to go!

    Did 30 this week. Ran 13 today. Was 35F with a fairly strong N wind. Ick. Marathon training doesn't stop for this cruddy weather. Ran on snow, so it was sllllooooowwww and labored, but I finished. Don't know which was crazier- running 13 in this weather or the 5 min ice bath I took after (ice baths always keep me from being sore, so although I got minor frostbite- it was worth it ).

    Stay warm out there ladies!!!!!
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  11. #41
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    Trigirl... that wind will kill you! I'm so glad we didn't run yesterday, the wind was horrendous. Today luckily it was milder and the trees kept the majority of it off us.

    BTW your 13 miles totally inspires me! The Boy and I were talking today after our run. We had major adrenaline going afterwards, cooked breakfast, painted a room in the house, cleaned the whole place and then started excitedly planning things we're going to do in the future... and we kinda committed to doing a 1/2 Mary in Indianapolis with his sister and b.i.l. next May!

    If you had asked me 6 mos ago, I would have NEVER thought I'd see the day when I was seriously considering a marathon or 1/2 mary! And excited about it to boot!

    K.

  12. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattiefritter View Post
    Not sure what you meant by this? 160 is a normal working heart rate for me, I can still breathe through my nose at 160. If its too high then I'm snookered!

    Nice going on the 18K!
    It's all about long slow distance. Slow being the operative part in this situation. Usually recommended that when you are increasing distance on the long run, you should keep your heart rate low. This means less chance of injury and better use of the aerobic energy system for fuel. In effect, you are training to bias your body towards fat as fuel. This increases endurance and helps to prevent hitting the wall. Keeping your heart rate low also forces you to work on efficiency of running.

    160 isn't a bad HR to run at, it just depends on goals etc. If you can still breathe through your nose, you're golden. Where your aerobic zone falls depends on age, fitness and especially anaerobic threshold.
    Last edited by Wahine; 01-21-2007 at 12:07 PM. Reason: I suck at spelling and grammer

  13. #43
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    i'll be good from now on.

    I was singing along with my ipod at 160 (only when I could be sure no one was around to hear).
    I am a bit sore, but I did 2hrs spinning as well as a little swimming on Sunday. I ate well, and I added quite a bit more salt to my food over the weekend than usual. And guess what: almost zero PVCs last night in bed. Maybe it's been caused by sodium loss, I really don't know yet. I did not use to sweat much.
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  14. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahine View Post

    160 isn't a bad HR to run at, it just depends on goals etc. If you can still breathe through your nose, you're golden. Where your aerobic zone falls depends on age, fitness and especially anaerobic threshold.

    Whew!

    People are so very different with HRs aren't they? In my riding group we have great variability in working heart rates. Mine is usually about the 160 mark whereas my friend very very rarely gets anywhere near 160 (she is a "low beater"). My BFs working heart rate is quite a bit higher than mine but will happily hold a conversation at a heart rate I'd be gasping at...

 

 

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