Thread Drift

[DrBee]

I just lost it on the "how slow" thread. They're still going at it and the inflammatory poster just repeated herself again. I couldn't take it anymore and had to respond. I should delete it. I'm fast approaching the PMS zone and I just sat through a hideously boring 2 HOUR seminar! I'm hungry, thirsty, and want to be home riding - it's gorgeous here today!

We NEED to have movie night! Aargh! Or at least the beer! Perhaps an appletini would be tasty this evening...

[Trek420]

oh dear, I just found the HSAI thread.

I need to go off and pick up Duck on Wheels rental so we can ride slowly tomorrow. Oh the shame of it all.

We're a diverse international board of women (?) and I hope it stays that way. I think her (?) 1st language is not English? Possible that she (?) does not get the nuances of what she says.

Maybe we should talk about Diva cups, perimenopause, hot flashes and spotting, how to balance training and breast feeding and whether or not you should use those pump devices ....in How Slow am I to find out.

[DrBee]

OK - so I did go back and look when I saw Trek had posted - nice post - darlin'! You've ended my work day with a laugh - thank you Chocolate's on me! Just bring the movie

[DeniseGoldberg]

I just lost it on the "how slow" thread. They're still going at it and the inflammatory poster just repeated herself again. I couldn't take it anymore and had to respond.

Uh, I just lost it too! I told myself after yesterday's post that I wouldn't look any more, but the comment about the (supposed) 35mph speed in the TDF (on top of the whole "you're slow" implication just blew my mind.

Ah, maybe it's a good thing I'm going away for the weekend and I won't have access to a computer!

--- Denise

[SadieKate]

I need that poem about giving me the strength to be patient or whatever (and I'm not even religious).

So hard to keep my mouth shut, but it is just an argument now with an irrational, illogical and stubborn personality. I refuse to beat my head against an arrogant stone wall.

[Tater]

Fish, I thought your post in the HSAI thread was fine. I am glad you didn't erase it. Trek's was a classic, though! It is amazing how some people don't get a clue, even with so many others telling them otherwise.

[Nanci]

Trek 420- She got straight As thank you very much!!! :-)

Geez, Caligurl went wild!!!!!!!!

BTW- I've ridden at an >18mph average for 80 miles, including taking many pulls, at the beginning of the 400k brevet- and my ITB blew out at some point after lunch :-( Until the knee pain, it was really exciting.

And at TOSRV on the second day I rode in a huge peloton averaging 22-24 effortlessly for many, many miles but eventually got dropped on my nemesis, a hill. And if the peloton is traveling that fast- a dropped rider has very little chance of catching up alone.

So I'm not _always_ as slow as my comfortable pace.

But something I don't think certain people take into consideration is- brevets aren't a race, but there are many time cut-offs during the day. So the rider has to go as fast as they can to bank time, which may be needed later for mechanicals, sleeping, a slower pace due to an injury- whatever, but they are betting on a pace that won't leave them unable to continue.

Only the very elite riders can go out at a race pace and keep it up for the entire event.

Many people start out fast and drop from injury or nutritional/hydration/overheating/electrolyte issues.

Very few just aren't fast enough because of their average speed.

[DrBee]

I love how we go over there and post and then come here to vent.

Uh Nanci - did you post that on the HSAI thread? It would seem relevant...

Cali seems to have calmed down a bit. I thought she was going to blow a gasket there for a minute.

Hopefully the HSAI thread will settle down. I'm seriously not posting in it again...unless we start talking about irrelevant topics such as margaritas again.

[snapdragen]

Uh oh - me too.

Oh thank gawd, I thought you were going to quote Knotted and say you pooped on the floor when you were anxious..........

[Trek420]

Nanci "Trek 420- She got straight As thank you very much!!! :-)"

you're welcome, not bad considering no Phd eh? ::::Trek takes bows left and right "no really, you're too kind. Just send chocolate to my agent"::::

"BTW- I've ridden at an >18mph average for 80 miles..."

Uh, Nanci, you don't have to explain anything or apologize for speed...ever. You do Brevets, we're slack jawed in awe at least I am. And we so get the cut-off time speed thing.

And if HSAI gets too stressfull for us we'll just find a way to drift the thread to the-subject-we-don't-talk-about and close it Though I still think we should switch to Diva Cup, what to do with afterbirth, hotflashes...there.

I'm back from Summit with a Gary Fisher Tassahara for Duck on Wheels to ride tomorrow.

Hmmmm, surprisingly light. Must...stop....wanting...mtb.

[DrBee]

Oh thank gawd, I thought you were going to quote Knotted and say you pooped on the floor when you were anxious..........

ha...ha...ha...ha...ha...

[Nanci]

I thought Cali was great!

No, I'm not posting over there any more unless it's a drift. I like people to think I'm slow. I like being slow. It's not a race UNLESS IT'S A RACE.

I was at a stop light on the way home. A big peloton of Cattle Egrets flew over, in a V formation. Then came a small group of stragglers, in a ragged V, still in sight of the peloton. Then, after a long time, a single bird. I wonder if he could even see the others. I wonder if he was trying desperately to catch up, or if he was going at his own pace.

The thing about Centurys and Doubles, compared to 200ks and 300ks and 400ks (brevets) is Centurys and Doubles are supported. You have SAG stops with yummy foods and drinks. You have roaming mechanical support. You have arrows painted on the ground. You might be riding with 2000 other people. In a brevet, you stop at convenience stores. It is against the rules to get assistance outside the Controls. If you have a mechanical, there is no SAG vehicle. You get a sheet of paper, and are responsible for following the directions. A huge ride might see 40-50 riders. An average ride has 20-30. On a Century, if you don't feel like stopping at a SAG, if you are carrying enough on your own, you don't have to. In a brevet, you HAVE TO stop at roughly 30 mile intervals, park your bike, dig out your brevet card, go in the store, have the clerk sign and stamp it.

I would like to nominate chicken chow mein as the most perfect pre-cycling food.

The wine of the evening will be Bogle Petite Sirah. In recent years the Bogle Petite Sirah has collected many accolades including 10 gold medals in the last 3 years, "Best Buy" 4 years in a row by Wine Spectator magazine and also voted "Top 100 Best Buys of 2005" by Wine Enthusiast magazine.

And I got it on sale!!

I love looking at my medals. What is vermillion?

I'm wondering which Terry Zero is more like my Vitesse, the X or the Y. I like skinny seat and long narrow nose. I need to measure Vitesse. I am curious to see how the Balckwell Flow feels tomorrow, when the girlie bits are good as new, as opposed to last Sunday after the 140 mile ride Saturday.

I'm thinking I need a new seat post to facilitate saddle switching, probably aluminum, because then I won't be breaking the rule about not mounting a rack on a carbon post, but am not sure what to get. I have a Thomson on my MTB, which I really like, but the adjustment is pretty fiddly.

What do you guys think is the difference, in feel, between aluminium, carbon and titanium??

[DrBee]

Can we pleasssssssse stay away from afterbirth talk. For some reason the whole eating the placenta thing really grosses me out. That surely would be more pleasant that people telling us we're slow, though!

And yes Nanci - I agree with Trek. You absolutely do not ever never ever need to justify anything to us! Lordy woman - you ride longer in one ride than I do over the whole month, or multiple months sometimes! And you've accomplished that ability in only one year of real road riding. I'm just blown away by that!

Someday I'll get to do a long ride that doesn't involve endless 5 mile loops. The road crews are currently putting humungo chunks of gravel down where I could potentially ride out of town (now that the nasty dog is gone). They're "resurfacing" the road. I'm thinking that Serenity isn't going to like that much. So alas, my 5mile loop it is. It's better than nothing, right? Just think of how strong my legs will be from all of those start/stops at stop signs.

[DrBee]

Nanci - I have no idea on the seatpost question, but if you need me to take any measurements on the Zero X, let me know.

What's a good quick food to eat in the early morning before a relatively short ride (30-35 miles)? Chicken chow mein, while good, may not work at 6am...I've been feeling like I'm just dragging lately. I think I'm not eating enough to keep up with my rides/runs. I'm going to pay close attention to what I eat this week and see how many calories I'm taking in. I really think that's why I've been feeling sick on/off for the past month or so.

Cali did great - she definitely got her point across!

[Nanci]

I eat CCM at 6AM...Have to plan ahead, though!!

Measured saddles:

Vitesse: 10.5 x 6"
Zero X: 10.6 x 6"
Zero Y: 10.9 x 5.5"

Can't find Blackwell Flow on line, and don't want to go out to the shed AGAIN.