Thank you, Muirenn! Excellent information. Giordano was one I remember wearing. I am not very tall, 5'4", but in the past, shorts have not been too long in the inseam for me. I am longer waisted, though, than my height would indicate, so in the past, I've worn a lot of bibs, although I prefer shorts. I'll have to check out those Louis Garneau. And the smartwool. Thanks!