I know this has been discussed before, but Athena?

[tulip]

Or would that be masochist?? I always mix those up...

Masochist starts with M = Me.

Sadist starts with S - Someone else

(not that I have to use those terms very often or anything...)

[GLC1968]

Masochist starts with M = Me.

Sadist starts with S - Someone else

(not that I have to use those terms very often or anything...)

That's helpful!

So Susan is a masochist and her coach is a sadist. Makes sense.

[Susan Otcenas]

Last night I went and looked back at my times and Jeff's times from Blue Lake for last year. Sheesh, I really fell apart on the run. I had a so-so swim, an awesome bike leg (16th or 17th fastest women's time, I think) then died on the run. That seems to be my pattern. I need to work on holding something in reserve on the bike so that I don't get cooked at the end of the run.

[GLC1968]

Yeah, but you are running so much more this year (and a lot faster, too?), so I bet that'll make a huge difference this season.

Did I tell you that after seeing Chip's talk the other night I'm thinking IM for my 50th birthday? (It'll take me that long to get the run volume up there).

[colby]

Last night I went and looked back at my times and Jeff's times from Blue Lake for last year. Sheesh, I really fell apart on the run. I had a so-so swim, an awesome bike leg (16th or 17th fastest women's time, I think) then died on the run. That seems to be my pattern. I need to work on holding something in reserve on the bike so that I don't get cooked at the end of the run.

Hey, I'm a member of that club - average to above average swim, WAY above average bike, average to below average run. Bah! I don't think holding back on the bike (especially at sprint/Olympic distance) punishes me much on the run... or I don't want to believe that because I love the cycling so much. Longer distances though I'm much more careful about the bike, and I still come out to average swim, average bike, below average run.

I think GLC is right - your running effort this year will make a huge difference. It would make an interesting experiment to not reserve yourself on the bike and run this year and see if it's different just by your running efforts.

[Susan Otcenas]

Hey, I'm a member of that club - average to above average swim, WAY above average bike, average to below average run. Bah! I don't think holding back on the bike (especially at sprint/Olympic distance) punishes me much on the run... or I don't want to believe that because I love the cycling so much. Longer distances though I'm much more careful about the bike, and I still come out to average swim, average bike, below average run.

I think GLC is right - your running effort this year will make a huge difference. It would make an interesting experiment to not reserve yourself on the bike and run this year and see if it's different just by your running efforts.

Colby, I think I will use that strategy for my sprint tri this weekend. To me, sprints are all about going balls to the wall for the entire event. I've done this event every year for the last 4-5 years, so I know the course like the back of my hand. I plan to hammer the bike, and hopefully still see good results on the run.

Besides, GLC's husband is part of a relay that begins in the heat behind me (15 minutes). He's talking trash about them catching me and I intend to see that doesn't happen.

[Blueberry]

Did I tell you that after seeing Chip's talk the other night I'm thinking IM for my 50th birthday? (It'll take me that long to get the run volume up there).

I'm thinking about it for my 40th....hopefully. That's just over 8 years. And I DO think it will take me that long

[GLC1968]

I'm thinking about it for my 40th....hopefully. That's just over 8 years. And I DO think it will take me that long

My 50th is in 8 years too. Maybe we should plan to do the same one...how cool would that be?

[Blueberry]

My 50th is in 8 years too. Maybe we should plan to do the same one...how cool would that be?

Awesome!