Thanks guys! I think now I just get to wait until everybody has the ones I like in stock and visit bike shops in other towns to test ride some more. They all seem like good bikes. The Surly has a *lot* of good reviews standing behind it, but I guess ultimately it just comes down to fit now that I've narrowed the playing field. I think I might even drop twenty-five bones to get fitted since I don't know what the correct position *should* feel like.