thanks guys!

grog: I know all of the stores you speak of, my cyclocross is actually a Cramarotti - and it came with the men's version of Selle Italia but they gave me a damaged one (nose was banged and there was a noticeable rise on where your bits fall, VERY painful!) and swore it had nothing to do with them (doubtful).

I know Ed (Mighty Riders) from when he was working at Main Station Bikes. Not the best of friends, so I've avoided going in there, though anyone who knows anything about bikes swear by MR.

MEC's very heavily stocked on the Terry and I think one Fiz'ik and not sure I like any of their styles. My recent foray into Terry was because I found it for $15 (including shipping!) on ebay...

I got my Avocet O2 from Dizzy, and I can concur with your finding of their selection.

I think I'll try a Brooks through Wallbike - I've been browsing at that site all morning and may give the B-68 a try, as B-17 looks a bit slippery with the smooth leather.

thanks again!