the spirit was willing but the knees and arches were week.

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And if you don't like them you can return them to REI. (or sell 'em to me, if you're a size 9.5 )

thanks for the good advice. i think I will try the insole idea first and then I will reward myself later with some shoes/ pedals.

Sorry Knotted I am happy to make a size 7.5 no where near 9.5