thanx for the results so far! for now it sounds like the polar is better for rides (colder and ice longer at first).

i'm glad the other didn't have the funky smell! i'll be watching for your home results! i like cold water!!!

p.s. i have a "result" do NOT put your ice/water filled polar bottle in the freezer to keep it cold and leave it there for an hour before your ride.. it WILL freeze and will stay that mostly that way! especially when it's only an after-work ride for an hour! dumb dumb dumb! lol!

now if i make it ahead of time i just put it in the fridge til i'm ready to leave! DUMB!