I was scrolling back thru the boards, and found some more respones in this thread. I appreciate the help. My bike still has fit issues, and I think a different saddle would help. A couple things that did help since this post were Chamois Buttr. Yep, tried and true, came right out of the short. And no skin irritation on lady bits. Carring a few pounds of winter coat now, but at the time, I went down a shorts size. Seemed really too tight at first. But, my other shorts were getting some slight bag, and this helped to not have the slightest wrinkle. I don't think I like the cut seam of the chamois tho. So, maybe on the right track with size, but another brand and chamois cut next. Also, thinner chamois, Which indeed was better with less. Now that it is slow and places seem to have more time to help, I might try one last shop locally. I'd travel somewhere if I knew it was worth it. Yes, it is too bad about the place that sold me the bike. I won't be taking my $ there for the next one. I was a spinner first, before a cyclist, love both now. One of the few lady cyclist of spinners at my gym. Ladies that think about biking outdoors sometimes ask me about where to go for a bike/gear. Unhappy campers are not the best walking billboards. Guess you reap what you sow, eh? Thx... no more Desitin for me!