Shorts...again!

[Owlie]

I think it's time to part with my favorite pair of shorts (Primal Wear Prima), as I appear to have biked myself out of them.

I love the chamois on those shorts. It's wide enough, but isn't bulky at all--I can forget it's there. I've never seen anyone mention them on here, but if you can recommend a similar pair, that'd be awesome.

My second favorite shorts, if it helps, are the Sugoi Evolution shorts with the red/orange chamois. My Castellis (Vizio.1) are not entirely friendly.

[zoom-zoom]

I don't know how the chamois would compare, but those Primal Wear ones look similar to the PI Symphony Cut short, which also has a 6" inseam and a flat waist panel. Those are my favorites. I also have a pair of Symphony shorts with the 8" inseam, but they are snugger and don't have the same nice waist panel.

[OakLeaf]

Having been on a shorts quest in the last year, I've found that the fit of the shorts is as important as the construction of the chamois. If the shorts are even a little too big, the chamois will move around, and if they are even a little too small, my parts will be compressed and/or suspended, and I'll move around independently of the chamois. Either way is not good.

I'm on the line between sizes in just about every brand, so it's a real issue. In principle I really like the Castelli Kiss-3 chamois, but when the rides get longer, as far as the "outside" part of the shorts, Medium is too big and Small is too small, and they just get uncomfortable. One of my two most comfortable pairs of shorts right now is the LG Neo Power (in Large, for comparison with Castelli sizing). When I looked at that chamois I didn't think I would like it, but I was willing to give it a try. As it turned out, the shorts fit me so well that the chamois doesn't move under me and I don't move over it, and they're great for all day.

So my advice is to find a brand that fits you very, very well, and pay as much attention to that as to the chamois. If you're one of those lucky ones who isn't on the line between sizes, ignore me.

[Owlie]

I'm actually snugly within medium for everything except Primal and LG, so we're good on sizing. The Sugoi shorts fit me well, but I don't want the bulkier chamois that's in the newer Evolution shorts.

That LG chamois actually looks pretty comfy. Can't find the PI shorts zoom-zoom recommended anywhere in medium, but I'll see if I can find some other PI shorts and at least check those out.

Thoughts on Shebeest?

[zoom-zoom]

I'm actually snugly within medium for everything except Primal and LG, so we're good on sizing. The Sugoi shorts fit me well, but I don't want the bulkier chamois that's in the newer Evolution shorts.

You might not like the Elite 3D chamois in those PI shorts I mentined--it's similar to the newer Sugoi chamois, I think. It works OK for me, since the footprint fits my sit-bones and girly bits pretty well, but it could be a bit less bulky and I'd not mind.

[Owlie]

You might not like the Elite 3D chamois in those PI shorts I mentined--it's similar to the newer Sugoi chamois, I think. It works OK for me, since the footprint fits my sit-bones and girly bits pretty well, but it could be a bit less bulky and I'd not mind.

I think that chamois is in all their shorts, at least, all the ones I've seen. If I can get to a shop (either Performance or the LBS) that sells PI, I'll try them on and take an in-person look at the chamois.