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    Recess Temperatures

    Our school recently informed the elementary teachers that students are not allowed outside for recess when it is below 40 degrees. I'm trying to find some info or statistics as to safe temperatures, or even recommendations as to specific temps and windchills. As a high school teacher who teaches these elementary kids in the summer, I'm trying to imagine a day with them cooped up inside like this. No wonder my friends in the elementary school are complaining. These kids need to run, even if only for 10 minutes!

    I have found policies from different schools. One school in Texas has a cutoff of 55, and then some in the north, such as in Minnesota lets them out at 0.

    Our superintendent likes cold hard facts, statistics and charts, and instead of grumbling to each other, I think the teachers just need to present their case to the Super. (Don't get me wrong, I think this guy is the best thing to happen to us, and I know he would listen). Seems every school has it's own policy, but if I could get some statistics from national studies, doctors, etc., I'd appreciate it! I'm not having any luck.
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    40 degrees???. When I worked in an elementary school, the cut off for outdoor recess was 25 degrees. Since this was in the late '90s, I don't think kid's ability to withstand cold weather has changed. What is wrong with these people? Another example of the way some just try to overprotect every aspect of a child's life.
    There's nothing better than seeing a bunch of fifth graders come inside with rosy cheeks, take off their coats, and settle in for some learning.
    I guess these powers that be don't go out and x country ski when it's -7 degrees out.

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    I honestly think it's coming from parents. Their little darling doesn't want to go outside so the parent complains, and unfortunately, it's a small town so the Superintendent and board members get the calls. I also think that people honestly think that you get sick from going outside when it's cool or raining. My mother in law thought that. Wish I had a nickel for every time I told her that you get a cold from a virus, not from the temperature or the rain. (We played in the rain much to her horror). Oh, yeah, it's better to crowd the kids and germs in a small space all day. That will keep them healthy!

    I realize I'm preaching to the choir. But I feel so much better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by uforgot View Post
    I honestly think it's coming from parents. Their little darling doesn't want to go outside so the parent complains, and unfortunately, it's a small town so the Superintendent and board members get the calls. I also think that people honestly think that you get sick from going outside when it's cool or raining. My mother in law thought that. Wish I had a nickel for every time I told her that you get a cold from a virus, not from the temperature or the rain. (We played in the rain much to her horror). Oh, yeah, it's better to crowd the kids and germs in a small space all day. That will keep them healthy!

    I realize I'm preaching to the choir. But I feel so much better!
    Just a comment:

    It rains alot here on the Northwest Pacific coast, yet I'm always amazed to see kids ages 8 and up, playing soccer in steady rain. They are wearing uniforms so it is a real game with parents hanging about on the sidelines. Temperatures would be around 40 and below (or above).

    However I don't recall having great fun out on the playground when it rained. But great fun playing in snow at very cold temp. at school playground. Oh yes, we also had an outdoor ice rink on the school playground. Yep, I went to one of those schools.
    Parents need to be reminded of children in the snowier parts of North America.
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    According to this chart, frostbite isn't a concern until it is 10 degrees, and then only if the wind is 55 mph.
    wikihow recommends keeping children in if the temperature drops to -13F!

    Good luck getting them out of doors!

    Maybe some kids, especially these days, don't really know what to do when they get outside. Perhaps you could organize some games & fun races?

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    It's all relative.

    Being from Quebec, I spent my childhood recess times outdoors at temperatures down to -15 or -20 Celcius (sub-zero F). However, we were all little Quebecers with lots of appropriate winter gear such as boots, coats, snow pants, mittens, etc. (It probably took about 10 minutes to get us dressed for recess.) Here in Vancouver I wouldn't send the kids out if the temperatures were below 0 Celcius (32F) since most people don't have appropriate winter clothing, and would indeed endanger themselves. I'm not that old (32) but maybe the rules have changed. I sort of doubt it.

    If you're in Missouri, I'd sort of expect people to have what it takes to survive the around freezing point.

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    can any of you remember being out for recess and being HURT by 40 degree weather?
    I can remember when it was freezing and playing with the ice in the puddles. That's a very sad commentary; what are we raising, hot house flowers? My mother made us go out no matter what the weather (thunderstorms excluded) and we went out and played. We got wet sometimes too, and we survived. I hope you can just talk plain old common sense to that principal. Humans survived millions of years without forced air heat and fleece lined gloves!!!
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    Our kids go out if it's not raining. They run around and play in temperatures in the mid 40s to low 50s with no coats on, in short sleeves! They don't care; they're having fun. This is CA so a lot of them don't even have winter coats.

    Sometimes I think having a child must turn off the logical part of the brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melalvai View Post
    According to this chart, frostbite isn't a concern until it is 10 degrees, and then only if the wind is 55 mph.
    Weeeeeellll, according to my ears, they've been frostbitten at 20° above with not too much wind. It's true it was considerably colder than that when my fingers and toes got frostbite, and ears aren't really that big of a concern.

    But I agree that kids should be outside.
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