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    Sharp Turns

    Yesterday, I was on a downhill trail with a lot of switchbacks and found myself almost having to stop to negotiate the turns to prevent sliding. Any tips on technique for making sharp turns? I'm sure I'll improve with practice, but I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

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    well if the switchbacks were built for hikers and not mountain bikers, you can forget riding them.

    Down and up require different skill sets.
    Here's some skills to try, play with them. I stay in the neutral position, and really feather my front brake if they are very tight.

    * Look-look-look around the turn, and keep moving.
    * Look beyond the exit of the turn, down the trail
    * Remember to stay in the neutral position. Extend your legs(but don't lock them) and move your body back as needed.
    * Go slow if you need to really control the turn, "rachet" if you need to but don't coast
    * Your bike will turn tighter than you think it will!
    * I've found it helps to keep the bike as upright as possible. A tight slow speed turn is not one you want to lean into unless you have a berm to rail. To do this keep the outside arm straight at the elbow and bend the inside arm. This'll lean the bike out of the turn with your weight in balance on the inside. This also maximizes tire contact with the ground."
    * I found that after I had my brake levers adjusted in for a shorter reach, it improved my cornering especially on switchbacks. With a more comfortable reach, I have much more control with feathering and modulating my front brake. This has helped my cornering immensely: I use both front and back to control my turn.
    * Be sure you are out of the saddle, move your weight back if it's steep.


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    What tires are you using and are they made for your riding conditions? Of course some specific skills are involved (as is feeling at ease on the bike) when making sharp turns, but I've found that the proper tires also make a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
    well if the switchbacks were built for hikers and not mountain bikers, you can forget riding them.
    Yeah, no kidding! Found out the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
    keep the outside arm straight at the elbow and bend the inside arm.
    Absolutely. I can't tell you how long it took me to realize that I was keeping my inside arm stiff. And apparently when I was getting help from other riders they didn't notice it either. I'd always get around the turn, but it felt forced.

    For some reason RH turns felt especially awkward to me, and I'd tighten up. Now when I see a switchback coming up I take a quick breath in, and when I exhale I think about keeping my shoulders loose and bending that inside arm.
    I don't crash so much anymore (less blood on the trail), so just call me Stephanie

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    Huh. Never thought about arm bend. I'll have to pay attention to what I do on my next ride. Thanks for the tip, guys!
    monique

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    what about braking? what's the most effective braking technique for sharp turns? i'm wondering about both downhill and uphill. thanks ladies!

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    this is an honest question from a non-MTBer, but a roadie who keeps hearing that dirt riding is the best way to learn to slide and improve handling skills on both road bicis and street motos.

    Do you WANT to prevent sliding? Or is what you want, to learn to control it?
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikkin View Post
    what about braking? what's the most effective braking technique for sharp turns? i'm wondering about both downhill and uphill. thanks ladies!

    Um, I wouldn't brake on the uphill but thats just me.

    Feathering and modulation. Gently, light squeezes or pumping action.
    I use the front brake more than the back to control the turn. Also, only one or two fingers on the brakes, ladies, no more is needed with discs.

    Sidenote - most brake levers can be adjusted to fit women's hands. There are travel adjustment screws that will pull the levers in to fit short fingers.

    as for practicing controlled sliding, please practice this only on gravel fireroads and not the trails.

    (excuse me while I get out a soapbox) Skidding and sliding is very destructive to trails. It should be avoided at all costs. If you are skidding or locking up your tires, you are going too fast for conditions or out of control. It's also an indicator that you are braking too hard - let up on the brake just a bit. Unless you are on fireroads where it doesn't matter, there is no legitimate excuse for skidding or sliding while mountain biking.

    /soapbox
    Last edited by Irulan; 06-11-2008 at 02:54 PM.

 

 

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