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Yeah, I don't think Surly is the brand for me.
I really *don't* need this bike. And... we need snow! Obviously, I won't be racing, but something is pulling me toward this bike. It's going to be...

I looked at the geometry of the Hellga. They do not have x-smalls (unusual for Specialized), but the small has a 26.8" standover, which is in the ballpark with my Trek Silque (27.6). It also has...

Sky King, any comments?

I could use this as an excuse for not going fast! Seriously, a tank with flat pedals seems like a nice change from my 15-17 lb. road bikes.
Especially in the snow.

Eh, one ti bike is enough! The only other shop that I know sells Surly is Harris Cyclery and they s**k for other reasons. I went there once to look at a touring bike and the guy treated us like...

I found both of these bikes at a large bike shop in the Boston area. Not a shop I like (they treated me horribly when I bought my mtb there, in 2004).
Not sure if we will bite the bullet on the...

Thank you!

We've been thinking about it, too. I was a terrible mountain biker, but I think I could handle snow better than rocks and roots. And, I might not be adverse to riding one on the crappy roads, after a...