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Floyd.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...l06/jul27news3
Let's see what the B sample says. . . (trying to be optimistic)
I could just cry.
I'm stunned, I really hope the B sample shows that A wasn't accurate.
What happens now? Do they wait for the second test? How does this work? I may have to stay home sick today.
Here's another article from Velonews that confirms that Floyd was named. Let's hope the B test comes out negative.
http://velonews.com/news/fea/10591.0.html
I must say that with everything that was going on lately with doping scandals I was very dissapointed with pro cycling and where it's going until stage 17. But now I am sitting and don't even know what should I think.
Doesn't look good folks....
I feel like I could throw up.
If I barrelled up a bunch of mountains with major epinephrine/adreniline dumps and in huge pain, wouldn't my testosterone/epitesterone levels be elevated, too?
Oh No :(
I really don't want to find out that the French are so pissed at Americans winning that they'd go to these steps to taint the result.
I really really don't want to believe it's true.
make it stop :(
Knotted - I was thinking that too. Testosterone levels can vary naturally, so I'm just hoping that it turns out it that is was a by-product of his performance and not something used to alter it.
Again, I could just barf. This is as bad as Tyler. But I was more naive back then and I fervently believed him. I think alot of us have taken off our rose colored glasses since then.
Oh boy. I have a hard time believing he could be so stupid as to actually take something, given the scrutiny placed on the race – particularly this year.
The whole thing is a disgusting, if you ask me – disgusting if it is true, and all the bad press for cycling is disgusting if it is false. Sickening, too…
How long do we have to wait to know for “certain” what the results are?
Stunning horses, Haud. I think the B sample could take a week. Hopefully it is expedited - but done carefully.
I just don't know what to think...I want to believe in him. If it's true...it makes me almost not to watch cycling anymore.
I will choose voluntarely to keep my pink glasses until it resolved. Because of the scandal and press i was looking at every rider with question in my head:"is he doping, did he take something, blah blah blah" I mean there was no day after TDF without any talk about doping scandals on cycling news and other sites. It really is disturbing.
To play devil's advocate -- he said he knew that stage was all or nothing, he had to do everything he could to recover from the day before.
I just hope this is all a big fat nothing.
I also would wonder if the elevation weren't somehow natural. Heck, I *know* it took a lot of testosterone to do that...
Say it ain't so is right.
wow. thats about all i can say. co-worker who hasn't said a word to me about cycling, asked me if floyd's title will be taken away from him. i didn't know about this whole thing, just woke up so i told him i would get back to him. and of course i came straight here for my valuable information. and found his questions to be true. :(
i'm starting to think someone has something against american riders. hopefully sample "B" comes back with the correct result.
i wonder if he's on any other medications for his hip that could have caused these results.
Geonz - I was wondering the same thing. I know next to nothing about physiology, so maybe it is wishful thinking :(
Something against American riders??? Whole teams of Europeans have been kicked out! It's natural to test the winner, among others. Please, let's not start with the French hate Americans rant. This affects riders and teams of EVERY nationality.
It's a shame if he did it. It would be surprising, since he knew he would be tested. But greed is a powerful thing.
very very true. who knows what it can lead you to do. some get caught doing them and other don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by tulip
Tulip.. I hate to say it, but have you been to France lately?? BOY HOWDY!! It seems many of them DO hate us!!! Of course I'm not saying the entire COUNTRY hates us, but it seems that ever since the freedom fry debacle, sentiments towards us have turned south. :p
And yeah, alot of other euro's were caught up in it to. I was most sad to see Jan caught in the mess.
Personally I find it hard to believe that Floyd would be that stupid. I mean these guys KNOW they will be tested to the max if they are anywhere near contention. I dunno... Maybe I'm naive??
Heck lets' test them all and call for a do over!!! Maybe Levi or Georgie boy will step up the second time around. heh heh heh :D
I wish all pro sports were as diligent as cycling is about testing and sanctioning those caught.
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why aren't other pro sports cracking down on drug use more? i don't understand. is it because they don't want to know?
if they do find someone doping they seem to just slap them on the hand and let them go. i don't get it.
maybe in other countries they crack down on it more, but i don't see it around here.
Yeah, I've been in France lately. I'm a dual national. I've never seen an example of yo schmo American tourist being hated over there. Of course, if I see some big ole fat WalMart type with an American flag tee-shirt yelling at a French person in English so he'll understand...well, I tend to run the other way real fast.
The French, and the rest of the world, have issues with how American policy and action is completely screwing the world, from environmental issues (***k you, Kyoto Accord!) to the w-a-r...but we're here to talk about doping in the Tour de France. A much brighter topic, non?
I just saw an MSNBC Report that Floyd tested positive for Testosterone after the 17th stage. :confused: I feel a bit of denial coming through me. This is horrible!!! :eek: Maybe he was taking something for the hip pain and it triggered his body to produce more?
If the B sample comes back positive, I think I may give up entirely on pro cycling...
oops, whoda thunk it. Goofy Elf man goofed up ?
This sport is obviously under the 11th commandment - thou shalt not be caught.
Well, this is sort of good news on other riders:
Five Astaná riders who were forced out of the 2006 Tour de France because of alleged links to a blood doping investigation have been formally cleared by Spanish courts.
Joseba Beloki, Isidro Nozal, Sergio Paulinho, Allan Davis and Alberto Contador have all received a written document officially clearing them of any links to the ongoing "Operación Puerto," the Spanish newspaper El Diario Vasco reported Wednesday.
Bummer for those guys that they had to miss the Tour, though.
i'm fearful of the results. I was rooting for him. Cross our fingers.
I heard somebody on the radio say that Major League Baseball and the Cycling community needed to get together. One is way too loose and the other is way too tight, and the middle ground should be about right between them.
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I agree. I went to a SF Giants game this weekend, and the level of Barry Bonds worship made me sick.
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Bigger bummer for Vino who had a real chance at a podium place in this years TDF - but was excluded because too many of his teammates (now cleared - just several days after the tour is over) were implicated.
From what I understand, it's an inconclusive test. Also, we shouldn't rule out meddling with samples and all that. It seems that cycling has some of the tightest rules and the most testing of any professional sport, so I'm not surprised the top riders are often accused/caught, etc. using enhancements. I'm sure other pro sports would fare similarily. This is not to say that using enhancements should be OK, necessarily, but I guess I don't share the extreme disapppointment.
Maybe we should have two associations: "hopped up" and "ridin' natural." Kind of like supermarket foods -- regular and organic?
I know he was given permission to have a cortisone shot in his hip prior to the tour. I don't know if that effects the results on those tests.
2nd. That shouldn't have been the only day he was tested. He had held the mellow johnny before, so shouldn't the prior tests have been steroid positive? I can't believe he would have taken steroids just for 17.
Right now it's all speculation so I'm just going to wait and see. I have a hard time believing this as well. Hopefully things will turn out for the best.
IF indeed he did do something he shouldn't have done, then I too will give up my interest in procycling.
Yup... let 'em do their stuff on their own. Let us RIDE, RIDE, RIDE and know we're doing it under our own steam (or hot air, or whatever!), with a little caffeinated GU now and then...
lol, great idea!! It would be really interesting to see the different results.Quote:
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