I just saw them switch. There is only one egg now. Someone posted on the forum they saw mom eating the shell of the other egg. I guess there's still marginal hope.
Nanci
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I just saw them switch. There is only one egg now. Someone posted on the forum they saw mom eating the shell of the other egg. I guess there's still marginal hope.
Nanci
oh gee..... so my horrible day continues (NOTHING is going right for me today! i want to go back to bed and hide under the covers)
this just upsets me to know end...... i'm already overly emotional where animals are concerned.... and this is just so hard... after watching... waiting.... expecting....
i'm so sad.... biting my tongue to keep from crying (i'm at the office)
We have something bogging down our internet connection today - are they at all optimistic on the eagle forum? How many days has it been?
I'm still hopeful, but realistic. I think we have more emotional investment in this than the eagles. I'm rooting for that last egg. Come on little guy/girl - hatch - pleeeeasssse!!!
I am back on my regular computer, so I can access the site; but havn't seen anything yet. Sure hope we have at least one baby.
Oh man!!! I can't get the site to come up- well the cam or the forum.. UGH! But it looks like nothing but bad news. Poor eagles! That breaks my heart! They have been such good eagle parents too!! :(
They don't know. They only know what to do "if." If there are eggs in the nest, sit on them. If the egg doesn't hatch in X amount of time, get rid of it. If a baby eagle magically appears, feed it and keep it warm. They've had long lives and replaced themselves many times over.
Nanci
True enough - but still sad. Like I said - it's going to affect us more than them.
Yeah, I was pretty devastated when one of Chloe's puppies was still born. Chloe just got down to business of taking care of her 4 living pups.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishdr
Oooh - what type of dog is Chloe?? (I'm a dog ****.)Quote:
Originally Posted by snapdragen
Edit: wow - I didn't put in those ***'s!! I put in a word for "lady of the evening" indicating my complete goofiness over any dogs.....
here's my boy...
She's a Pembroke Welsh Corgi - cute as heck and knows it.
WOW!!! She is so cute!! My grandparents had a corgi when I was a kid. Great dog. A short big dog - definitely not a "little dog."
Any more pups coming???
My boy's a breeder for Guide Dogs for the Blind. He gets to go on "dates" and make baby guide dogs. Dumb as a post, but SO sweet,
Nope - her pregnancy and delivery traumatized me :rolleyes: She had to have a cesarean, could've died - I'm glad she was with the breeder, who knew what was going on!
She's been "fixed".
Good thing she's okay. Gosh she's cute, though!
Boy did we ever hijack this thread....
We now return you to your original programming...
I watched the eagles for a bit today - caught them when mom/dad brought dinner to whoever was sitting on the egg. Man, for such regal birds, they sure have sissy calls....:p
I like the way Nanci put it, that the birds know what to do "if". Love the dogs. Adore my cats. Hoping for an eaglet.
That's so funny--I always think they look so magnificent that they should sound like James Earl Jones, and am always a little surprised when they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by snapdragen
Exactly! You expect a booming "caw!" and instead it's "twee, twee".:DQuote:
Originally Posted by salsabike
Last I saw, there was one egg, maybe with a hole, parents still devotedly sitting. I heard about a special post, written by Sound Guy on the eagle forum, and had to dig a bit to find it. Here it is:
Some Thoughts .... About "US"
Somewhere in the near future, a young couple and their pre-school daughter will visit Hornby Island.
On their stroll toward a tall growth of Douglas Firs, the father points and says, “That’s where we met. It was the spring of 2006. There were millions of us here, from all over the world.”
With a quizzical look his daughter asks, “Where, by those trees?”
The couple and their daughter come to the edge of the fir stand, and the father points again, “There it is,that’s the tree where we all met, that funny looking one with no top.” With a more puzzled look than ever his daughter says, “How could millions of people meet in a tree?” The father, now shouting with excitement, “and there’s the nest, see that little clump on the top branches? That’s it .. there it is, the eagles nest where we met!” The five year old looks at her mother and asks, “Is daddy telling another fairy tale mommy?”
It wasn’t a fairy tale, we were there. We saw it, and we lived it.
We were total strangers, known only by funny sounding names like “Nufdawg” , “Squink” and “Hotflash.” The one’s we could put an imaginary face to, were David Hancock, Richard Pitt, and David Carrick.
We were brought together as a family. We laughed together, shared together, we agonized together and we cried together. And yet, we never met face to face.
As the couple and their child walk away, the father takes a final glance. The nest looks a shambles. Dead twigs hanging, some caught like spears in the branch below. At the edge of the nest, what appears to be
a growth of deep green moss. One side of the tree has turned a rust colour.
If you close your eyes you can see it. The little blue patch in the corner. The funny face at the end of that snapped off branch. And the white, yellow and mahogany brown of the eagles. Feathers that look like an acrylic painting. And if you listen closely, high above the trees in the mist of Hornby Island, the distant echo’s of the soft melodic whistling of two American Bald Eagles. Maybe the progeny of two elderly eagles who allowed us to share their most intimate moments. Next spring, they’ll perform their beautiful tumbling mid-air courtship ballet. And maybe, they’ll come back to the Hornby Island nest. To repair, and rebuild.
And start all over again.
Awesome story - thank you Nanci!
It gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes. This amazing technology, the internet. Such power to connect people. Like at the TE board. Thanks, Nanci, for sharing the story with us. L.
Hornby Island Eagles not successful in 2006
Sunday, April 30 2006 @ 03:09 PM PDT
Contributed by: davidh
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Sad News:
April 30, 2006
Eagles and conservation have been the joy and occasional sadness of my life. This is a sad moment. It appears that the Hornby Island bald eagle eggs are infertile. The first egg should have hatched April the 26 and the second egg today. The first embryo, if it developed at all, is surely dead. The second embryo, could still hatch but I cannot see the proper pipping of the egg shell, where the chicks beak has broken through enabling it to draw in air, the precursor to the final struggle for hatching. It does not look good for this pair this year. In fact this is the second year of failure for this nest territory.
Reasons for the Failure to Hatch:
We cannot be sure. Some educated guesses follow.
The adult eagles are possibly old:
1. This is the 19th year for known nesting results from this tree. It could have been occupied for 50 or more years earlier. Was the same pair occupying the nest all that time? We do not know. Eagles could live that long.
2. If the birds are very old it is possible that they have simply run out of reproductive ability. Perhaps they simply can’t produce viable eggs any longer.
3. Alternatively, it is possible with very old birds that they have accumulated so many pesticides and heavy metals that their reproductive track is no longer able to function properly. This is not at all out of the question. I am told that orcas (killer whales) that now periodically die along the British Columbia and Washington coasts are so polluted and their bodies so loaded with poisons that it is illegal to tow their bodies out to sea or have them hauled to land fills. They carcasses have to be burned. A very sad statement on our polluted earth. Are these eagles, who also occupy the top of the food chain and eat the same basic foods as orcas, also contaminated. Very possibly. Maybe the reproductive success is going to be restricted to younger eagles that have not had so long to accumulated the poisons.
One or more of the adult eagles is young and inexperienced:
1. This is possible – but not liklely. Last year when the territory only hatched one young which died at 6 days of age and the other egg did not hatch, both adults were in full adult plumage – not even just newly matured at 5 years as this would have been indicated by the dark streaking in their white head or dark tail band. These birds appear to be fully mature both last year and this year. Furthermore, this pair appear to e very experienced in nest building that we got to witness in such marvelous detail, and in fullfulling the incubating duties. They hardly left the eggs unattended more than 12 to 40 seconds during any exchange that I witnessed. They are not just good, and I assume experienced parents, but so compatible with each other. I take this beautiful pair to be very experienced parents. So the loss again this year of their eggs I also view as most likely due to loss of fertility due to age or polution.
Other alternatives:
There are infinite options but none seem logical than my first option above. The pair are very used to human disturbance, constantly perching near houses and human activity with no noticeable alarm or concern. While I have received lots of concerned calls and emails at the sounds of power movers, cars, chain saws and dogs we have had an unprecedented opportunity to watch the eagles in the cam and correlate their behavior with disturbances. The noise of civilizations does not seem to phase them a bit.
I found one call from an irate and annoyed caller quite interesting. She heard the disturbance of barking dogs and instantly called me. I was actually calling Doug to question him about this. After many rings he answered the phone and reported that he delayed coming in to the phone until the herd of barking sea lions has passed by his porch. I hardly think barking sea lions would be a disturbance to bald eagles – and indeed barking dogs elicit no interest from the nesting birds either.
Survival:
Eagles like most creatures in the wild are constantly subjected to the test of survival. Can they find food and make a living? Can they avoid being killed and eaten. Can they avoid hurting and damaging themselves? If they can’t keep their feathers in good condition they won’t be able to fly efficiently and hunt effectively and they will die.
Almost half of the eagles that start nesting loose their eggs or young. Surviving in the wild is not easy. Of those young that survive to fledging only a small percentage are likely to survive the five years to maturity. Once they have proven themselves as good hunters and they enter the breeding population they can produce young for 15 to 25 or more years. Now pause for a moment to contemplate how many eagle there would or could be it the adults were successful lin raising one or two young every year for 20 years! That could be that each pair produced 30 or 40 young – far more than necessary to keep the population stable. And stable would mean producing a new eagle for every one that died.
Therefore, with such a long live potential, their has to be a lot of nest failures or early deaths otherwise the world would be full of eagles – and no room for any other species. Not a balanced system.
So as much as I was very saddened to not see our beautiful pair of adult bald eagles produce eagles this year it is not an unexpected happening that they should fail. If, as I suspect, these are old eagles, they have already produced many replacements for themselves and they have been great contributors to the very successful and expanding eagle population that we have been experiencing the past 50 years. It is not a good thought that they have stopped reproducing because they have become sterile from pollution and this is also not confirmed.
We will hope and expect that other eagles will be more successful and they their young will be flying over our waters. If our adult pair is at the end of its reproductive life we can anticipate younger birds moving into the territory shortly and becoming the parents of the next generations.
David Hancock
yeah, yeah, the parents haven't given up on the last egg yet! (But I am not hopeful...) Still, let's let _them_ call it.
This is a quote from the website "May 01, 2006
The second egg has not yet hatched. The due date is early this week, so please stay tuned!!"
Think hatching thoughts...
Yeah. Let them call it.
(hatch hatch hatch hatch hatch)