LOW standover 29er

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06-20-2012, 10:32 AM
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LOW standover 29er

Earlier BikeRumor released some info. about upcoming Cannondale models, including the Tango--a 29er that may work really well for some of us shorter riders.
http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdn...ain-bike01.jpg

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Tango is a new 29er hardtail with the stiffest front end of any of their bikes. It’s designed to have a really low stand over height and is positioned as an entry- to mid-level enthusiast mountain bike. It tops out at $1,550 with XT with an entry level model at $890.

I'm intrigued. I'll definitely want to try this and the Trail SL 29er in a size Small (which is as small as that model comes, for now, but it apparently has a pretty high standover, which would maybe not work for someone like me with only a 30" inseam). That Tango looks like it could weigh a ton, which may not work in its favor, for me. I have enough trouble keeping up with my beast of a husband and speedy friends, heh.
06-20-2012, 06:01 PM
ridebikeme

The Tango does look like an interesting bike!

Like you, I've been looking for a 29er as well.... my inseam is 29" so like many, it's difficult. I have been looking at the TRail Series in a Small, and as you probably know the standover is 30.5 in the 29er and 29.3 in the 26" wheel. So time will tell.... Perhaps they'll come up with a 650.... I'll have to ask the rep the next time I speak with him.;)

Good luck in your search! :rolleyes:
06-20-2012, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ridebikeme

The Tango does look like an interesting bike!

Like you, I've been looking for a 29er as well.... my inseam is 29" so like many, it's difficult. I have been looking at the TRail Series in a Small, and as you probably know the standover is 30.5 in the 29er and 29.3 in the 26" wheel. So time will tell.... Perhaps they'll come up with a 650.... I'll have to ask the rep the next time I speak with him.;)

Good luck in your search! :rolleyes:

Oh...I never could find a geometry chart for the Trail SL size small. That pretty much rules it out, then, since my inseam is 30. I'd totally be straddling that puppy in a bad way. :o

Now I'm especially interested in the Tango! :cool:
06-20-2012, 07:28 PM
jessmarimba

I didn't want to scare you off, but I suspected it would be too big for you. I'd probably fit it ok and I'm a few inches taller than you. For C'dale, seems like you need to size down one size to the 29er from what you'd ride in a 26.
06-20-2012, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jessmarimba

I didn't want to scare you off, but I suspected it would be too big for you. I'd probably fit it ok and I'm a few inches taller than you. For C'dale, seems like you need to size down one size to the 29er from what you'd ride in a 26.

Ahhh...I'm betting the new Tango will take care of that. I worry that sizing down will mean a really short cockpit, which is my primary issue on my F5. I feel way too upright, which makes me feel extra unstable and top-heavy.
06-20-2012, 11:13 PM
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I found more images of the bike on another site...
http://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/c...87182874_o.jpg
06-23-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jessmarimba

I didn't want to scare you off, but I suspected it would be too big for you. I'd probably fit it ok and I'm a few inches taller than you. For C'dale, seems like you need to size down one size to the 29er from what you'd ride in a 26.

Went to our LBS today. Played with a Trail SL in S. Standover was definitely a no-go. I could "stand over" it, but there was NO wiggle room at all. I think the reach would be good, but not the top tube. So the Tango is looking golden, right now! :cool:
06-26-2012, 02:32 PM
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So, our LBS buddy is going to some bike trade show event in Utah this weekend. DH gave him explicit instructions to really check out the Tango 29er. :cool:
07-03-2012, 11:12 AM
Aggie_Ama

I am only 5'2.5" with a 29" inseam and have no standover issues on Specialized's small FSR or HT. I was VERY worried about standover but it is a non-issue for me. After I realized that I could focus more on reach, luckily Specialized uses a more compact cockpit than a lot of manufacturers and so the "unisex" bike fits me like a glove. I still have people tell me us short gals can't ride 29ers because of standover but have you seen Emily Batty? She is tiny!

See if they can get you one to demo, that is the best way to see if you have standover issues. The Tango is an interesting design, I think you will see more and more manufacturers experimenting with shorter standover 29ers. When I bought my Gary Fisher FS 26er back in 2008 there was nothing I could standover in a 29er (Austin was definitely flooded with them to try). Fast forward to 2011 when I got my Epic and I had plenty of options to try.
07-03-2012, 11:45 AM
indysteel

I think demoing a bike is key as the published geometries of mtbs can be misleading to some extent. With dramatically sloping top tubes, it all depends on where the manufacturer measures along the TT for standover. I know I've been fine on bikes that, on paper, shouldn't fit and vice versa.
07-03-2012, 12:33 PM
indysteel

You might look at Giant's offerings, too. The Anthem X 29er W looks like it could fit you, too. I know you're excited about the Tango, but I'd do your best to test out other bikes and brands to make an informed decision--as best you can--as to fit.
07-03-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by indysteel

You might look at Giant's offerings, too. The Anthem X 29er W looks like it could fit you, too. I know you're excited about the Tango, but I'd do your best to test out other bikes and brands to make an informed decision--as best you can--as to fit.

I may have to...I'm interested to hear what our LBS buddy says (he actually took a photo with his phone and addressed it to me on FB, heh). He can generally tell whether or not something will work for me without my even trying. He told me from the get-go that the small Trail SL isn't really all that small.

I wish our LBS carried a wider variety of 29er options -- without looking into really pricey options like Salsa.
07-03-2012, 01:10 PM
indysteel

What brands do they carry?
07-03-2012, 02:05 PM
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What brands do they carry?

Cdale, Salsa, Surly, Cervelo, Ridley, Gunnar, Seven. A lot of those companies don't do mtn. bikes (Cervelo, Ridley) or they don't offer 29ers in smaller sizes (Gunnar). I have a feeling the Salsa El Mariachi would be a good one to try, but the trick is finding one to try. Our LBS is a small shop and doesn't carry a ton of stock, much less in smaller sizes, particularly with 29ers. Maybe it's something he'd be willing to order, even if it doesn't work for me. I can't imagine that it would be completely unsellable--it seems like the demand is there.
07-03-2012, 07:11 PM
ridebikeme

According to my sales rep, the Tango is going to have the lowest standover height of any womens 29er for 2013. Of course, that could always change... I'll try and get some more info for you:rolleyes:
07-03-2012, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ridebikeme

According to my sales rep, the Tango is going to have the lowest standover height of any womens 29er for 2013. Of course, that could always change... I'll try and get some more info for you:rolleyes:

Oh, excellent! I'm really eager to try one! I'll really be interested to see geometry charts to see how it would compare to the Salsa 29ers, which would likely be the only other brand our LBS carries that would work for me at all.
07-04-2012, 04:20 AM
Becky

For what it's worth, my 2009 Salsa El Mariachi in size small has a standover of ~30". It's a tall bike! But it looks like they've decreased that in in the current model, as well as offering an extra-small.
07-04-2012, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Becky

For what it's worth, my 2009 Salsa El Mariachi in size small has a standover of ~30". It's a tall bike! But it looks like they've decreased that in in the current model, as well as offering an extra-small.

Yeah, it looks like the current El Mariachi (which is what I would be considering, in package level "3") is being billed as 28", which would likely be adequate for me.

I'm going to have to pick our LBS friend's brain on the two bikes, now that he's had a chance to check out the Tango. He's never steered me wrong, before.
07-09-2012, 07:00 AM
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Still haven't pulled the trigger on anything and it will probably be closer to Fall before that would happen. But I wanted to point out one of the things that irritates me about Cannondale. They have long had a trend of making their top-of-the-line bikes in black or white. If one wants a bike with higher-end components they have to settle for a BORING color. That black Tango has Shimano XT. This is apparently what the entry-level version of the bike looks like:
http://mtbs.cz/media/2012/06/25/Cannon13_tango_cl.jpg
It's called Tangerine Dream, according to our LBS buddy.

NOT FAIR! We'd most likely be looking at the black one. *yawn* I hope they might offer more than one color in each model, but I won't hold my breath. They don't do that with the current Women's 26" models (though they do with the men's...sexist! :p)
07-09-2012, 12:18 PM
Becky

You can always ask about frame-only availability :D
07-09-2012, 12:29 PM
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You can always ask about frame-only availability :D

I've thought about that. I'm not sure how much Cannondale does that. It's tempting, though it would likely end up costing extra. My Redline came with low-end Shimano and we had our LBS swap out with SRAM Apex, since I have Rival on my road bike. They didn't charge me for their time to do that...hmmm...
07-10-2012, 05:40 AM
Aggie_Ama

Jazz it up with some new grips and bottle cages? Then splurge on some custom wheels, my Industry Nines are blingy!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25..._1051666_n.jpg

I have had people in races seriously comment on my wheels. You can see my bits of purple in this photo, with black and white you have a lot of freedom to put your stamp on it!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25..._6282690_n.jpg
07-10-2012, 06:17 AM
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Whoa, mama...that's hot! Yeah, wheels are one thing I would likely upgrade, at some point. It appears that Cdale puts the same sorta low-rent wheels on all models of this bike, at least that's what I gather from photos. I think it's the same wheel they put on all Trail SL (the men's 29er equivalent) models, too.
07-13-2012, 12:48 PM
ridebikeme

I just received the 2013 catalog today, so was interested in seeing hte color choices that one would have for the Tango. Ahhhh

Perhaps your LBS would give you credit for the stock wheels towards something else???

Aggie... that is a beautiful bike... GREAT colors!!!:D

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