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My dog is very smart.
Ooooh, VERY smart.
He figured out how to get into the garbage can, even though I'd put a child-proof lock on it. (not a doggie proof lock, apparently)
He ate a whole chicken skeleton, minus one leg and one wing that I took to work for lunch.
Since I came home and discovered his little culinary adventure, I've stuffed him to the gills with high-bulk goodies to help move things along.
Any other advice for dogs who've eaten splintery bird bones?
Was the chicken bones cooked or had you deboned the bird, then cooked the pieces? The cooking process makes the bones brittle and increases the chances of cutting or piercing the intestine. Just keep a close eye on your pup for signs that there is a blockage or other problems and get him to the vet asap if anything is not right... bloody stool.. not going (obstruction).. not interested in food.
Hope he is OK!!
Shannon
It was a rotisserie chicken. Nicely cooked. Crispy crunchy splintery bones.
More's the pity.
He truly can't eat another bite. I've plied him with all kinds of treats to try to whoosh stuff through his guts and out the other end. Doggie is full, and I'm low on dog food now.
After he has digested a little I will take him for a good walk and hope he does a lot of business.
Out, dammed bones, out!
hehe.. yea.. full tummy means he won't eat until some comes out the other side. I bet he was in heaven tho.. thinking NOM NOM NOM.. then you went and gave him treats. LOL.
My dogie once ate whole coffee beans. I was making coffee and spilled a scoop onto the floor and he was RIGHT there snapping them up as fast as he could until I could get myself between him and the mess. Even with a stern NO he still managed to eat more then I would have like.
He also started raiding the trash and got an awful (I mean REALLY awful) case of the dogie do-do and had an accident in the house while I was at work. I cleaned the mess up. He just looked at me so pathetic and sad I couldn't be mad at him. VERY next day he does the SAME thing, but to a lesser degree, so he was perfect example that dogs just aren't that dang smart!!!
Nothing is doggie proof if there is chicken involved. He is soooo smart, he's a good boy. ;) I hope he is ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
I know one trick for making dogs throw things back up if that's every an option. A vet actually recommended it.
We did this for a big 100 lb newfoundland after she ate something she shouldn't have. We gave her a big tablespoon of 3% hydrogen peroxide every 5 minutes until she threw up. We didn't go beyond 5 spoonfuls though. luckily she threw up at 5. But she just kind of gurgled and burped for the first 4.
I know that if dogs eat something dangerous like a hook or sharp bones you probably shouldn't make them throw up. But remember the peroxide if the doggies get into other things that they shouldn't that can come back out the way they went in.
I wonder if something would work as a doggy laxative?
Last year our dog ate a whole mess of blackberries at the park. Very same night, he produced same mess of blackberries.
Knott, I hope your guy is okay.
My Nico can spot street chicken* a half mile away and has gotten quite clever at snatching it up before we can stop her. If she's got her jaws locked and I can't fish it out of her mouth with my fingers, my last resort is to pick her up by her mid section, and wheeze her tummy like a bag pipe until she opens her mouth to howl at me to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trek420
Sometimes she gets away with it, and I just keep an eye on her until she poops the next day. Luckily, the bones are always salty enough to make her drink a ton of water after, so I think that must help push the bone through without too much trouble.
*I don't know if other cities are like this, but NYC is booby trapped with half eaten chicken carcasses and stripped bones on every block. You have to watch your doggie like a hawk.
Castor oil is a better choice than petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is not a food, and is not intended to be ingested. It's filled with all sorts of nasty stuff. It comes from petroleum after all!
I feed my dog raw chicken, bones and all, and he's fine, but raw bones are pliable. He's a very good scavenger from his street days, and he's always getting a hold of discarded (cooked) chicken bones on our walks. No way he'll drop them, either, once he's got them. So far so good. But he hasn't, to my knowledge, taken on an entire carcass, although if given the opportunity I'm sure he wouldn't pass it up.
Best wishes to a quick resolution of the situation, preferably outside in some wooded area where you don't have to pick it up!
Knot, your doggie just got a thorough teeth brushing by chomping on the bones. :) The upside to this is the marrow is very good for the dog. The downside is the bone splinters could irritate the gut and cause unpleasantries. Keep an eye on the stool: if you see mucous on the poo, or an extra dark stool with a really foul odor (possible blood in the stool), or several days of pudding poop, it's time to call your vet. If your doggie is doing #2 frequently in a day, withhold food and give Pedialyte and call the vet before he gets too dehydrated or develops pancreatitis. Immodium can be given to the dog but ask your vet for the correct dosage.
My australian shepherd waited for me to leave for an errand before she picked up a package of frozen chicken breasts, carried it into the living room, unwrapped it, and proceeded to consume the whole thing leaving a nice clean styrofoam container that was still half wrapped. She did this within 30 minutes.
at least she unwrapped it! I hear raw chicken (aka the BARF diet) is no issue as the bones are tender/flexy. Cooked chicken creates rigid bone shards, so you need to be careful...and the advice here sounds good.
So far the bones I've seen produced have been ground into tiny bits. He must've chewed thoroughly.
And the massive amounts of gluten-rich goodies seem to be binding the cooked bone bits into firm... umm... "thingies."
He didn't have any evil accidents while I was at work today (just a benign accident of the sort one would expect after stuffing an innocent canine with 3 or 4 days worth of food and treats - I told him it wasn't his fault).
Keeping my fingers crossed.
If traffic is moving, that's a good sign.
I could've written that myself! I have SO many stories!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadtrip
my dog would have literally toppled you over to get at a moldy bun. It really didn't help that he had colitis, so when he was indescrete (which was far more often than I liked!) he inevitably had accidents at home. And these are the projectile kind that smelled worse than hell itself. I'd be literally gagging while I'm cleaning up. I know he couldn't help it and the pitiful looks he gave me...
I used hydrogen peroxide on him a couple of times before I discovered activated charcoal. Whenever I wasn't quick enough to divert him from eating god-knows-what, I gave him a capsule of charcoal and he never had any explosions. Whenever his tummy was gurgling, the charcoal settled it.
If it were my dog that ate the chicken carcass, I would've had to stay home from work and sit outside with him all day...
What is it with the snatching meat thing? Our cat is an avid hunter and is quite, uh, "sharing" with the mice and occasional bird she brings home. Never growls over or hoards anything.
But yesterday we gave her the remains of some lamb chops we had had for dinner, thinking she would enjoy licking out the marrow and gnawing on the large bones. She went insane, and disappeared wild-eyed into the livingroom under the table to eat in peace, "grumbling" as she went.
So what does this mean - she's really meant to hunt lamb? :D
Gross! Gross! Gross!
No sign of distress from the chicken bones, but I have been paying a bit more attention to what the dog produces during this chicken-bone escapade. This afternoon I found Something Else... and it was so obvious that I would have seen it even before I started looking for chicken bone bits if it/they had been there.
Gross! Gross! Gross!
My is vet closed for the weekend and I couldn't bear to wait 'til Monday, so I high-tailed it to PetCo and bought some broad spectrum de-wormer. I did google what active ingredients were needed before I shopped, and made sure I got something with those ingredients. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. I'll call the vet Monday.
GROSS!!! GROSS!!! GROSS!!! :eek:
oh Knott . . . sounds like this is harder on you than it is on your dog!
One of these days I'm just gonna have to buy a TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muirenn
If only so the dog can watch Cesar Milan. :D
If your dog is literate, Cesar has books too. :p
I learned a lot from watching his programs. Cesar trains people, and the dog works out.
He's on Youtube :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8sD...eature=channel
Yup.
The only question we flunked is the one about pulling on the leash. My dog is crazy for smells, and as he's gotten blind smells have become even more important. On a 6 ft loose-leash I often waterski, but on a short leash he will heel nicely.
Mine knows humans are boss. He's Omega Dog. He gets out of anyone's way. I can take away his bowl as he's trying to eat, and I can pull treats and toys out of his mouth. We used to do the whole poke-pull-prod business so he wouldn't freak if someone grabbed him, but not for years.
I originally had him training to be a therapy dog, but his temperment was just too anxious to be calm away from my side. I was supposed to consider it again after he was about 5 years old, but lost the desire.
Now he's older, part blind, has tender lipomas here and there, and is having some trouble with his hips. He's still one of the sweetest Omega Dogs I've ever met.
But, boy Howdy, can he find a chicken carcass!
Cesar's stuff can be really helpful (I'm a huge fan), but I think a lot of his advice falls into one of two categories: 1) making sure the dog gets adequate exercise and 2) correcting problem behaviors as they occur. (While also being aware of what you are projecting to the dog) Which you have to be present for.
It's a bit harder to correct behaviors that occur when the dog is unsupervised. Adequate exercise helps, but it may be that further dog-proofing the garbage or finding a way to confine the dog to a non-chicken-bone part of the home when you are out would be most expedient and effective.
Or I could take the garbage out when it's full of chicken-ey goodness!
Yes, I'm sure that would work too!
my FIL's dog loves to go after the trash when we leave him alone in the house. This in spite of the fact that the garbage can with bricks in the bottom weighs more than he does. We just put the trash in the pantry cupboard when we go out. No big deal.
Our cats go crazy if we give them a chunk of meat or bone. Little tigers or small snippy steelmagnolias in fur coats.
marni
My mutt (who tends to think she's in charge of all she sees) knows many tricks. One of them is "excuse me". Whenever she's blocking my way I just say that command and she moves outa the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muirenn
It's one of the first things she learned. :)
Heheh. I read this as the dog has learned how to "say" excuse me - and you move outa the way ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trek420
After being tripped over and stepped on a few times, mine knows that 'get out' means she'd better vacate the kitchen premises, like NOW. Unfortunately, the lure of food smells is great, and she does love being around mommy, so I have to kick her out every 10 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trek420